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	<title>Comments on: Study: Smoking In Movies Does Influence Smoking With Teens</title>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2007/09/study-smoking-in-movies-does-influence-smoking-with-teens#comment-51222</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 04:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree that parents SHOULD teach their kids right and wrong, responsibility, values, etc.  I was lucky enough to grow up with parents who did that for me.  But what about the kids whose parents don&#039;t know, or worse, don&#039;t care what they do, how they do it, or who they do it with.  There are so many kids who sit in front of a TV for hours a day because their parents are too lazy or incompetent or negligent to raise them in a caring, supportive way.  

Is it so horrible for certain people in society to want to help other people out.  Maybe you don&#039;t agree with their methods, and that&#039;s fine, but is it possible that these people who want to ban smoking in movies don&#039;t have an alterior motive - that they are not trying to start a chain reaction and ban everything.  Maybe they just genuinely care about kids who don&#039;t have the same parental guidance that we grew up with and this is just one small step that can help.  

Would banning smoking in movies have any effect on kids with positive parental guidance?  Probably not - they already know better.  Could it have an effect on those without the parental guidance - if they no longer see their heroes smoking on screen (yes, I know their parents should be their heroes, not celebs)?  I personally believe it can.  
  
Thinking along those lines, I am strongly in support.  I&#039;d prefer for movie studios to voluntarily eliminate smoking from their movies, but I doubt that&#039;ll won&#039;t happen anytime soon.

Bottom line, if it will have a positive influence on some of those that did not have the luxury of great parenting and help some kids to avoid a very dangerous life decision, I&#039;m all for it.  

To answer the question as John asked it, &quot;if it can be scientifically shown that smoking in the movies does cause higher rates of teenagers to start smoking... should we be willing to consider phasing smoking out of movies today?&quot;    Absolutely

On a side note, I&#039;m loving the movieblog more and more because the more comments I read, the more it seems like even when people disagree about something here, they GENERALLY handle their discussions with class.  Kudos to the commenters.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree that parents SHOULD teach their kids right and wrong, responsibility, values, etc.  I was lucky enough to grow up with parents who did that for me.  But what about the kids whose parents don&#8217;t know, or worse, don&#8217;t care what they do, how they do it, or who they do it with.  There are so many kids who sit in front of a TV for hours a day because their parents are too lazy or incompetent or negligent to raise them in a caring, supportive way.  </p>
<p>Is it so horrible for certain people in society to want to help other people out.  Maybe you don&#8217;t agree with their methods, and that&#8217;s fine, but is it possible that these people who want to ban smoking in movies don&#8217;t have an alterior motive &#8211; that they are not trying to start a chain reaction and ban everything.  Maybe they just genuinely care about kids who don&#8217;t have the same parental guidance that we grew up with and this is just one small step that can help.  </p>
<p>Would banning smoking in movies have any effect on kids with positive parental guidance?  Probably not &#8211; they already know better.  Could it have an effect on those without the parental guidance &#8211; if they no longer see their heroes smoking on screen (yes, I know their parents should be their heroes, not celebs)?  I personally believe it can.  </p>
<p>Thinking along those lines, I am strongly in support.  I&#8217;d prefer for movie studios to voluntarily eliminate smoking from their movies, but I doubt that&#8217;ll won&#8217;t happen anytime soon.</p>
<p>Bottom line, if it will have a positive influence on some of those that did not have the luxury of great parenting and help some kids to avoid a very dangerous life decision, I&#8217;m all for it.  </p>
<p>To answer the question as John asked it, &#8220;if it can be scientifically shown that smoking in the movies does cause higher rates of teenagers to start smoking&#8230; should we be willing to consider phasing smoking out of movies today?&#8221;    Absolutely</p>
<p>On a side note, I&#8217;m loving the movieblog more and more because the more comments I read, the more it seems like even when people disagree about something here, they GENERALLY handle their discussions with class.  Kudos to the commenters.</p>
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		<title>By: Jarek</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2007/09/study-smoking-in-movies-does-influence-smoking-with-teens#comment-51221</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as teen smoking goes, almost NONE of it revolves around movies. I smoke occasional cigars and it had nothing to do seeing it in a movie...my friend smoked them, I hung out with him, I wanted to experiment (try them), and found out I liked them. Same with cigarettes, I can&#039;t stand them but I found out by hanging out with friends who DID smoke, not by seeing a movie and going, &quot;oh I want one!!!&quot;

This is just a feel-good do-nothing measure that&#039;s an easy target to blame for society&#039;s ills.

BTW, in my last post, I put major responsibility on the parents...I realize that kids don&#039;t listen to their parents a lot of the times (like me, I was told never to smoke but I did/do anyway) but I believe with that moral backbone kids are less likely to do harmful stuff to them/other people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as teen smoking goes, almost NONE of it revolves around movies. I smoke occasional cigars and it had nothing to do seeing it in a movie&#8230;my friend smoked them, I hung out with him, I wanted to experiment (try them), and found out I liked them. Same with cigarettes, I can&#8217;t stand them but I found out by hanging out with friends who DID smoke, not by seeing a movie and going, &#8220;oh I want one!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>This is just a feel-good do-nothing measure that&#8217;s an easy target to blame for society&#8217;s ills.</p>
<p>BTW, in my last post, I put major responsibility on the parents&#8230;I realize that kids don&#8217;t listen to their parents a lot of the times (like me, I was told never to smoke but I did/do anyway) but I believe with that moral backbone kids are less likely to do harmful stuff to them/other people.</p>
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		<title>By: Jarek</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2007/09/study-smoking-in-movies-does-influence-smoking-with-teens#comment-51220</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know why you&#039;re singling out rap, when rock music (which I am a huge fan of) influences teens just as much (though I would agree that there is probably more harmful content in rap songs than rock music). As I said before, you can&#039;t blame the genre, you can blame the artists though.

You can also blame the parents, for a) letting their kids listen to harmful music without at least trying to stop it, although this can actually encourage that behavior and b) not teaching their kids better morals than what is being talked about in that music.

My parents taught me certain values and I choose not to act upon what I hear in music or movies and I also choose what to and not to listen to (ie, most rap that degrades women and basically treats them as sperm receptacles...I have no idea why girls don&#039;t pick up on this and why they enjoy being talked about in such a manner). Most of these kids today aren&#039;t taught what&#039;s right or wrong, so they&#039;re easily influenced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why you&#8217;re singling out rap, when rock music (which I am a huge fan of) influences teens just as much (though I would agree that there is probably more harmful content in rap songs than rock music). As I said before, you can&#8217;t blame the genre, you can blame the artists though.</p>
<p>You can also blame the parents, for a) letting their kids listen to harmful music without at least trying to stop it, although this can actually encourage that behavior and b) not teaching their kids better morals than what is being talked about in that music.</p>
<p>My parents taught me certain values and I choose not to act upon what I hear in music or movies and I also choose what to and not to listen to (ie, most rap that degrades women and basically treats them as sperm receptacles&#8230;I have no idea why girls don&#8217;t pick up on this and why they enjoy being talked about in such a manner). Most of these kids today aren&#8217;t taught what&#8217;s right or wrong, so they&#8217;re easily influenced.</p>
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		<title>By: Salem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 07:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed. It&#039;ll just lead to more banning of what people view as bad influence. Honestly, you want to keep kids from doing bad things? How about getting parents to stop being in such denial about what their children are doing!

And Black Metal does not suck. I never said Hip-Hop is inferior (because that&#039;s an OPINION), I just said I hate it. And it does too have a negative influence. Don&#039;t even get me started on the negative influence it has on society, and how it perpetuates current stereotypes. 

Black Metal pwns. Doug would agree with me on that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed. It&#8217;ll just lead to more banning of what people view as bad influence. Honestly, you want to keep kids from doing bad things? How about getting parents to stop being in such denial about what their children are doing!</p>
<p>And Black Metal does not suck. I never said Hip-Hop is inferior (because that&#8217;s an OPINION), I just said I hate it. And it does too have a negative influence. Don&#8217;t even get me started on the negative influence it has on society, and how it perpetuates current stereotypes. </p>
<p>Black Metal pwns. Doug would agree with me on that one.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Razey</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2007/09/study-smoking-in-movies-does-influence-smoking-with-teens#comment-51218</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Razey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 06:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fuck ya!

Ash saves the movie world!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuck ya!</p>
<p>Ash saves the movie world!</p>
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		<title>By: Holiday</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2007/09/study-smoking-in-movies-does-influence-smoking-with-teens#comment-51217</link>
		<dc:creator>Holiday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 06:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce Campbell will be there to chain saw that foot off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce Campbell will be there to chain saw that foot off.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Razey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Razey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 06:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First smoking gets banned, 
then booze, 

then guns, 

then swearing,
 
then sex, 

then movies all-together.

All they need is a foot in the door.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First smoking gets banned,<br />
then booze, </p>
<p>then guns, </p>
<p>then swearing,</p>
<p>then sex, </p>
<p>then movies all-together.</p>
<p>All they need is a foot in the door.</p>
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		<title>By: Krewo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krewo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 06:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Jarek about the content being important, not the music itself. And it&#039;s stupid to say one genre is better than another - to me, for example, Salem&#039;s black metal is just noise, even hip-hop sounds better than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Jarek about the content being important, not the music itself. And it&#8217;s stupid to say one genre is better than another &#8211; to me, for example, Salem&#8217;s black metal is just noise, even hip-hop sounds better than that.</p>
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		<title>By: Salem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good points. As I stated during another anti-smoking topic, it&#039;s a simple fad. Society feels the need to dump on smokers, and now they&#039;re going after it on screen.

Remember the Columbine shootings? People attacked hard rock music, video games, and freakin MARYLN MANSON! &gt;.Very good points. As I stated during another anti-smoking topic, it&#039;s a simple fad. Society feels the need to dump on smokers, and now they&#039;re going after it on screen.

Remember the Columbine shootings? People attacked hard rock music, video games, and freakin MARYLN MANSON! &gt;.&lt; History repeats itself...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good points. As I stated during another anti-smoking topic, it&#8217;s a simple fad. Society feels the need to dump on smokers, and now they&#8217;re going after it on screen.</p>
<p>Remember the Columbine shootings? People attacked hard rock music, video games, and freakin MARYLN MANSON! >.Very good points. As I stated during another anti-smoking topic, it&#8217;s a simple fad. Society feels the need to dump on smokers, and now they&#8217;re going after it on screen.</p>
<p>Remember the Columbine shootings? People attacked hard rock music, video games, and freakin MARYLN MANSON! >.< History repeats itself&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jarek</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2007/09/study-smoking-in-movies-does-influence-smoking-with-teens#comment-51213</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rap has nothing to do with influencing teens, it&#039;s the CONTENT of the rap song. There are some very positive rap songs out there, just as there are very bad rap songs out there. Same as rock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rap has nothing to do with influencing teens, it&#8217;s the CONTENT of the rap song. There are some very positive rap songs out there, just as there are very bad rap songs out there. Same as rock.</p>
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