Comments on: Why The New Star Trek Must Ignore The Trekkies http://themovieblog.com/2007/10/why-the-new-star-trek-must-ignore-the-trekkies The Official Home of Correct Movie Opinions Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:41:04 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Dawn http://themovieblog.com/2007/10/why-the-new-star-trek-must-ignore-the-trekkies#comment-206642 Dawn Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:13:27 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2007/10/why-the-new-star-trek-must-ignore-the-trekkies#comment-206642 I have one thing to say. Money is all that matters. Changing the timeline sets the franchise up for a brand new generation but this is not what Gene Roddenbury would have wanted. I was so disappointed with this movie. It is star trek for the next generation (forgive the pun), and they need special effects and very little story. I was going to go to the Vegas convention but now I think I'll just watch my NGen, DS9, Voyager,Enterprise, and the Original series and just accept that the franchise has left the original idea of Star Trek: an optimistic future of the universe. This movie is not about that. I have one thing to say.
Money is all that matters. Changing the timeline sets the franchise up for a brand new generation but this is not what Gene Roddenbury would have wanted. I was so disappointed with this movie. It is star trek for the next generation (forgive the pun), and they need special effects and very little story. I was going to go to the Vegas convention but now I think I’ll just watch my NGen, DS9, Voyager,Enterprise, and the Original series and just accept that the franchise has left the original idea of Star Trek: an optimistic future of the universe. This movie is not about that.

]]> By: Hank http://themovieblog.com/2007/10/why-the-new-star-trek-must-ignore-the-trekkies#comment-199603 Hank Fri, 08 May 2009 16:58:34 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2007/10/why-the-new-star-trek-must-ignore-the-trekkies#comment-199603 Yeah, but doesn't it seem like cheating for the filmmakers to take advantage of a long standing franchise with a provable (no matter what anybody says)track record and then try to change the history of it just to make their own movie? That seems really low (and uncreative to boot), to take advantage of the "Star Trek" name and characters in that fashion. I wrote a blog in about 15 minutes for moviefone last August as a plot outline for this movie. In that time I covered all aspects of canon so that the story would work historically and threw in a new adventure on top of that. A lot of fans read it and said I was right on the money with my outline and that it would have pleased them to see it at the movies the way I described. Now, if a simple fan like me with no formal training in screen writing can pull that off, establised and talented screenwriters should be able to do much better. It just seems like the worst kind of creative laziness to ignore the franchise's history, and you know what? If I was a writer, I think I would enjoy the challenge of writing a completely new "Star Trek" script that was exciting, entertaining, and yet remained true to the series history. Well, just a thought...it's too late now anyway. Yeah, but doesn’t it seem like cheating for the filmmakers to take advantage of a long standing franchise with a provable (no matter what anybody says)track record and then try to change the history of it just to make their own movie? That seems really low (and uncreative to boot), to take advantage of the “Star Trek” name and characters in that fashion.
I wrote a blog in about 15 minutes for moviefone last August as a plot outline for this movie. In that time I covered all aspects of canon so that the story would work historically and threw in a new adventure on top of that. A lot of fans read it and said I was right on the money with my outline and that it would have pleased them to see it at the movies the way I described. Now, if a simple fan like me with no formal training in screen writing can pull that off, establised and talented screenwriters should be able to do much better. It just seems like the worst kind of creative laziness to ignore the franchise’s history, and you know what? If I was a writer, I think I would enjoy the challenge of writing a completely new “Star Trek” script that was exciting, entertaining, and yet remained true to the series history.
Well, just a thought…it’s too late now anyway.

]]> By: John http://themovieblog.com/2007/10/why-the-new-star-trek-must-ignore-the-trekkies#comment-161060 John Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:46:33 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2007/10/why-the-new-star-trek-must-ignore-the-trekkies#comment-161060 I don't think the movie will fail because it does or doesn't associate with Trekkies. I think the movie will fail because it's an old property that doesn't interest new fans whatsoever. I've seen a few analogies and now here's mine- Speed Racer. Older fans of the anime didn't care, Wachovski fans didn't care, young kids didn't recognize the property. Bad idea. I don’t think the movie will fail because it does or doesn’t associate with Trekkies. I think the movie will fail because it’s an old property that doesn’t interest new fans whatsoever.
I’ve seen a few analogies and now here’s mine- Speed Racer.
Older fans of the anime didn’t care, Wachovski fans didn’t care, young kids didn’t recognize the property. Bad idea.

]]> By: Skelch http://themovieblog.com/2007/10/why-the-new-star-trek-must-ignore-the-trekkies#comment-157167 Skelch Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:03:23 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2007/10/why-the-new-star-trek-must-ignore-the-trekkies#comment-157167 trekkies that should be, stupid fingers :) trekkies that should be, stupid fingers :)

]]> By: Skelch http://themovieblog.com/2007/10/why-the-new-star-trek-must-ignore-the-trekkies#comment-157166 Skelch Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:00:45 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2007/10/why-the-new-star-trek-must-ignore-the-trekkies#comment-157166 I think the comparison of Treckies to wife beaters is pretty bad as well. I also know that Paramount has to reach out to new fans. The problem is that they can not totally turn their back on the fans. The things the fans don't want to see are things like Spock crying, or Scotty hating computers or any ship systems. The things that berman did to the vulcans in Enterprise with all the uncontrolled emotions, were different from what was all ready established and turned the fans off and the show lost. This proves to me they need to respect the fans. To think that the movies did not make money because the fans don't really support it is ridiculous. The problem is treckies like me have the rap for liking anything Trek. That we have no taste. The poor sales of the poorest movies prove we do have good taste and we quickly share the word on if a trek film is worth seeing or not. If JJ changes too much we have accepted as cannon about Star Trek this could doom the film, but realize that even fanboys want a good movie not just something that says Star Trek. They need to make a dang good move with great a great story, action, and hold it within the established guildlines of what we expect from the characters and they will have a success. I think the comparison of Treckies to wife beaters is pretty bad as well. I also know that Paramount has to reach out to new fans. The problem is that they can not totally turn their back on the fans. The things the fans don’t want to see are things like Spock crying, or Scotty hating computers or any ship systems. The things that berman did to the vulcans in Enterprise with all the uncontrolled emotions, were different from what was all ready established and turned the fans off and the show lost. This proves to me they need to respect the fans. To think that the movies did not make money because the fans don’t really support it is ridiculous.
The problem is treckies like me have the rap for liking anything Trek. That we have no taste. The poor sales of the poorest movies prove we do have good taste and we quickly share the word on if a trek film is worth seeing or not. If JJ changes too much we have accepted as cannon about Star Trek this could doom the film, but realize that even fanboys want a good movie not just something that says Star Trek.

They need to make a dang good move with great a great story, action, and hold it within the established guildlines of what we expect from the characters and they will have a success.

]]> By: Tom Trott http://themovieblog.com/2007/10/why-the-new-star-trek-must-ignore-the-trekkies#comment-125888 Tom Trott Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:22:35 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2007/10/why-the-new-star-trek-must-ignore-the-trekkies#comment-125888 Why not just "ARMOR"? Use John Steakly's book as a framework for intergalatic exploration and "accidental" war/conflict. An armored suit capable of allowing it's wearer to run 60MPH and move 6,000 pounds with each arm would make an AWESOME martial arts display....IMO!! Long live The Guardian of GOLDEN!! Why not just “ARMOR”? Use John Steakly’s book as a framework for intergalatic exploration and “accidental” war/conflict. An armored suit capable of allowing it’s wearer to run 60MPH and move 6,000 pounds with each arm would make an AWESOME martial arts display….IMO!!

Long live The Guardian of GOLDEN!!

]]> By: Paul Paz y Mino http://themovieblog.com/2007/10/why-the-new-star-trek-must-ignore-the-trekkies#comment-113374 Paul Paz y Mino Tue, 01 Jan 2008 19:12:56 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2007/10/why-the-new-star-trek-must-ignore-the-trekkies#comment-113374 Yea, that makes TOTAL sense... I mean the reason Star Trek is around 40 years later is because they totally ignored the fan base! Duh! If you don't like Star Trek the way it has been, fine. It will survive without you. Go watch something else. Trek doesn't need to change to suit a different audience - that's why there is PLENTY of other science fiction out there for those of you who don't get what is so special about Star Trek. Abrams ought to realize that and he ought to clean up hs act and make sure Star Trek XI doesn't condone the use of torture like many of his other projects (when the heroic characters use and justify torture - that's condoning its use). http://trekkies.againsttorture.com Yea, that makes TOTAL sense… I mean the reason Star Trek is around 40 years later is because they totally ignored the fan base! Duh!

If you don’t like Star Trek the way it has been, fine. It will survive without you. Go watch something else. Trek doesn’t need to change to suit a different audience – that’s why there is PLENTY of other science fiction out there for those of you who don’t get what is so special about Star Trek.

Abrams ought to realize that and he ought to clean up hs act and make sure Star Trek XI doesn’t condone the use of torture like many of his other projects (when the heroic characters use and justify torture – that’s condoning its use).

http://trekkies.againsttorture.com

]]> By: Tony Lankford http://themovieblog.com/2007/10/why-the-new-star-trek-must-ignore-the-trekkies#comment-107227 Tony Lankford Tue, 20 Nov 2007 20:49:32 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2007/10/why-the-new-star-trek-must-ignore-the-trekkies#comment-107227 'sigh'....just make a good entertaining film Paramount, and everyone will be happy! ’sigh’….just make a good entertaining film Paramount, and everyone will be happy!

]]> By: Tony Lankford http://themovieblog.com/2007/10/why-the-new-star-trek-must-ignore-the-trekkies#comment-107228 Tony Lankford Tue, 20 Nov 2007 20:49:32 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2007/10/why-the-new-star-trek-must-ignore-the-trekkies#comment-107228 'sigh'....just make a good entertaining film Paramount, and everyone will be happy! ’sigh’….just make a good entertaining film Paramount, and everyone will be happy!

]]> By: Tony Lankford http://themovieblog.com/2007/10/why-the-new-star-trek-must-ignore-the-trekkies#comment-107229 Tony Lankford Tue, 20 Nov 2007 20:49:32 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2007/10/why-the-new-star-trek-must-ignore-the-trekkies#comment-107229 'sigh'....just make a good entertaining film Paramount, and everyone will be happy! ’sigh’….just make a good entertaining film Paramount, and everyone will be happy!

]]>