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	<title>Comments on: Strike Has Cost Writers More Than They Hoped To Gain</title>
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		<title>By: Meiran</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2007/12/strike-has-cost-writers-more-than-they-hoped-to-gain#comment-113627</link>
		<dc:creator>Meiran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vonda, your &quot;rebuttal&quot; strikes me as exactly as &quot;propagandist&quot; as anything John has said, only in the other direction.

As I said in my comment above, I think both sides of this argument are acting shamefully.  Your article and John&#039;s have changed nothing about that opinion.  Though I admit that hearing two sides of an issue is often helpful, since the truth is always somewhere in the middle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vonda, your &#8220;rebuttal&#8221; strikes me as exactly as &#8220;propagandist&#8221; as anything John has said, only in the other direction.</p>
<p>As I said in my comment above, I think both sides of this argument are acting shamefully.  Your article and John&#8217;s have changed nothing about that opinion.  Though I admit that hearing two sides of an issue is often helpful, since the truth is always somewhere in the middle.</p>
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		<title>By: Vonda</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2007/12/strike-has-cost-writers-more-than-they-hoped-to-gain#comment-113512</link>
		<dc:creator>Vonda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 23:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the  longer the strike goes, the more this site becomes a propagandist apologist mouthpiece for the studios.

http://www.mediapundit.net/2007/12/john-campea-still-doesnt-get-it.html

visit for truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the  longer the strike goes, the more this site becomes a propagandist apologist mouthpiece for the studios.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mediapundit.net/2007/12/john-campea-still-doesnt-get-it.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mediapundit.net/2007/12/john-campea-still-doesnt-get-it.html</a></p>
<p>visit for truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Kermet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kermet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meiran,
That&#039;s just it. Neither side is blameless and right now, neither side is willing to negotiate. They&#039;re waiting to see just who has the ultimate upper hand. Right now it&#039;s a war of attrition. The &quot;innocents&quot; should pick a side and help end the strike sooner. Of course, I&#039;m biased as to which side I&#039;d like them to pick, but like Mr. Miyagi said, &quot;Middle of Road, get squished like grape.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meiran,<br />
That&#8217;s just it. Neither side is blameless and right now, neither side is willing to negotiate. They&#8217;re waiting to see just who has the ultimate upper hand. Right now it&#8217;s a war of attrition. The &#8220;innocents&#8221; should pick a side and help end the strike sooner. Of course, I&#8217;m biased as to which side I&#8217;d like them to pick, but like Mr. Miyagi said, &#8220;Middle of Road, get squished like grape.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Meiran</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2007/12/strike-has-cost-writers-more-than-they-hoped-to-gain#comment-113442</link>
		<dc:creator>Meiran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 15:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the WGA and the producers were actually about working this out and making a deal, then the deal would have been made already.

The team in charge of the WGA lead a small group of writers on a strike last year, and those men and women ended up without jobs, abandoned by everybody.  Exactly why does everybody assume their ideas are so much more noble this time around?

No matter what their motivation was, both sides here have hurt people who have done nothing to them.  To that, I say that I don&#039;t care what their aim was.  I don&#039;t care how perfect they think they are.  I can&#039;t support somebody who sends a craft services worker home without a paycheck for weeks, with no money to feed their family, because they can&#039;t negotiate.  I say that to the writers AND the producers.

Both sides should know better, and shame on the producers for trying to make it seem less like it&#039;s their fault too.  But shame on the writers for acting like they&#039;re blameless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the WGA and the producers were actually about working this out and making a deal, then the deal would have been made already.</p>
<p>The team in charge of the WGA lead a small group of writers on a strike last year, and those men and women ended up without jobs, abandoned by everybody.  Exactly why does everybody assume their ideas are so much more noble this time around?</p>
<p>No matter what their motivation was, both sides here have hurt people who have done nothing to them.  To that, I say that I don&#8217;t care what their aim was.  I don&#8217;t care how perfect they think they are.  I can&#8217;t support somebody who sends a craft services worker home without a paycheck for weeks, with no money to feed their family, because they can&#8217;t negotiate.  I say that to the writers AND the producers.</p>
<p>Both sides should know better, and shame on the producers for trying to make it seem less like it&#8217;s their fault too.  But shame on the writers for acting like they&#8217;re blameless.</p>
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		<title>By: Kermet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kermet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 06:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, what is the AMPTP giving you for this article?

I&#039;ll give you the Reality shows (as I said, they have editors, not writers), but animation should definitely fall under writers. Now, as for sympathy strikes, seeing as how the WGA is the guild that consistently gets shafted by the AMPTP (when was the last SAG or DAG strike?) then they ability to consolidate power with other guilds make them that much more of a bargaining opponent. For everyone out there complaining about the quality of film and television keep in mind that the writer is the least respected talent on a production. Hell, you can sell a script and end up with only Story By credits once a Producer, Director, and Actor has made so many freaking changes to your script. Now, you don&#039;t see writers getting this kind of treatment when it comes to novels. 
Stop thinking short term, think long term. More power for the WGA is a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, what is the AMPTP giving you for this article?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll give you the Reality shows (as I said, they have editors, not writers), but animation should definitely fall under writers. Now, as for sympathy strikes, seeing as how the WGA is the guild that consistently gets shafted by the AMPTP (when was the last SAG or DAG strike?) then they ability to consolidate power with other guilds make them that much more of a bargaining opponent. For everyone out there complaining about the quality of film and television keep in mind that the writer is the least respected talent on a production. Hell, you can sell a script and end up with only Story By credits once a Producer, Director, and Actor has made so many freaking changes to your script. Now, you don&#8217;t see writers getting this kind of treatment when it comes to novels.<br />
Stop thinking short term, think long term. More power for the WGA is a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: vargas</title>
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		<dc:creator>vargas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see a lot short-sighted, stupid comments on this post. The post itself misses the point of the strike. People always lose money when they go on strike. The point is not the money lost in the here and now, it&#039;s the money that will be made in the future. Besides that, how do you negotiate with studios when they won&#039;t be reasonable? If they find it difficult to get up off a very small percentage of earnings that will be made from internet downloads and purchases and other forms of new media entertainment, perhaps it&#039;s because they&#039;ve forgotten about whom their product originates from (writers).

I have to agree with Stewart and Oliver who seem to get it. It has nothing to do with &quot;whiny bitches&quot; and simply &quot;wanting more money&quot;. It has EVERYTHING to do with making sure that writers (who help make up the backbone of this industry) get paid in the future for the work they do when new media becomes the way we all consume entertainment.

I guess it&#039;s too much to ask when the people who create the stories for the movies and TV shows we all get to sit on our collective asses and enjoy want to get their fair share of the financial pie. Sheesh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see a lot short-sighted, stupid comments on this post. The post itself misses the point of the strike. People always lose money when they go on strike. The point is not the money lost in the here and now, it&#8217;s the money that will be made in the future. Besides that, how do you negotiate with studios when they won&#8217;t be reasonable? If they find it difficult to get up off a very small percentage of earnings that will be made from internet downloads and purchases and other forms of new media entertainment, perhaps it&#8217;s because they&#8217;ve forgotten about whom their product originates from (writers).</p>
<p>I have to agree with Stewart and Oliver who seem to get it. It has nothing to do with &#8220;whiny bitches&#8221; and simply &#8220;wanting more money&#8221;. It has EVERYTHING to do with making sure that writers (who help make up the backbone of this industry) get paid in the future for the work they do when new media becomes the way we all consume entertainment.</p>
<p>I guess it&#8217;s too much to ask when the people who create the stories for the movies and TV shows we all get to sit on our collective asses and enjoy want to get their fair share of the financial pie. Sheesh!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Stewart,

To use your own words:  &quot;Don&#039;t you understand anything&quot;?   For the Union Leaders this isn&#039;t about residuals.  That&#039;s obvious now.  It&#039;s about the Union leaders trying to gain as much industry political power and influence as possible by gaining control over every writer in the industry making it MANDITORY that all writers join the WGA if they want to work in Hollywood at all, and trying to gain control over Reality TV, Animation and Sympathy strikes.

They say it&#039;s about the residuals... they tell their union members it&#039;s about residuals... but it&#039;s really about power.  That&#039;s why the AMPTP walked away from the table.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Stewart,</p>
<p>To use your own words:  &#8220;Don&#8217;t you understand anything&#8221;?   For the Union Leaders this isn&#8217;t about residuals.  That&#8217;s obvious now.  It&#8217;s about the Union leaders trying to gain as much industry political power and influence as possible by gaining control over every writer in the industry making it MANDITORY that all writers join the WGA if they want to work in Hollywood at all, and trying to gain control over Reality TV, Animation and Sympathy strikes.</p>
<p>They say it&#8217;s about the residuals&#8230; they tell their union members it&#8217;s about residuals&#8230; but it&#8217;s really about power.  That&#8217;s why the AMPTP walked away from the table.</p>
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		<title>By: Stewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you understand anything? This strike isn&#039;t about the next three years. It&#039;s about whether writers will ever get residuals again. Everything is migrating to new media, and if the writers don&#039;t ensure that they continue to get residuals, it&#039;s over. They&#039;re done. They might as well work in fast food for all they&#039;ll be paid, because the stuff they get residuals for now is all going away. Very soon.

Caving to the AMPTP = DEATH

Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you understand anything? This strike isn&#8217;t about the next three years. It&#8217;s about whether writers will ever get residuals again. Everything is migrating to new media, and if the writers don&#8217;t ensure that they continue to get residuals, it&#8217;s over. They&#8217;re done. They might as well work in fast food for all they&#8217;ll be paid, because the stuff they get residuals for now is all going away. Very soon.</p>
<p>Caving to the AMPTP = DEATH</p>
<p>Period.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got to thinking the other day.

The writer&#039;s strike is likely going to cause several popular TV series to end up with shorter seasons.

When DVD releases are put out, shorter seasons tend ot cost less than longer ones.

This suggests that in a year or so if/when things are fixed, there will STILL be residual profit losses on both sides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got to thinking the other day.</p>
<p>The writer&#8217;s strike is likely going to cause several popular TV series to end up with shorter seasons.</p>
<p>When DVD releases are put out, shorter seasons tend ot cost less than longer ones.</p>
<p>This suggests that in a year or so if/when things are fixed, there will STILL be residual profit losses on both sides.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow you guys don&#039;t get it. The strike is not about making money now but ensuring future writers aren&#039;t stuck with a shifty deal like the VHS/DVD one. The want to make sure a deal is done before new media takes off (which will be at least three years away) not try and get some extra pocket moneyao they can buy that shiny new bike before summer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow you guys don&#8217;t get it. The strike is not about making money now but ensuring future writers aren&#8217;t stuck with a shifty deal like the VHS/DVD one. The want to make sure a deal is done before new media takes off (which will be at least three years away) not try and get some extra pocket moneyao they can buy that shiny new bike before summer.</p>
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