Comments on: Official: Guillermo del Toro Directing The Hobbit and Sequel – Will Jackson Stay Out Of His Way?

By: Slushie Man

Slushie Man — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 12:28:57 +0000

“I hope they can use visual effects to make Ian Holm look younger. It wont really be the Hobbit if hes not part of it.”

They don’t need to. Remember in the first LOTR, Gandalf said ‘My Bilbo, you haven’t aged a day’. The ring gives it’s owner unnatural long life, and Bilbo doesn’t look any old in LOTR as he does in The Hobbit, so they already have that covered. No worries there.

By: Gutpunch

Gutpunch — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:10:23 +0000

I’m not putting words in your mouth John. I’m just wondering where this speculation came from since Jackson has never shown any indication that he is that kind of guy.

And I think it’s more likely that Del Toro was looking at his options after Hellboy 2 because he’s the kind of guy that usually creates his own material to film or puts his mark on a pre-existing property, aside from Mimic of course. He’s vowed to never make that mistake again so he’s only working with people he trusts completely and gets to have his way. This is a guy who can basically chose his next project so I think he knows what he is doing.

By: JamieM

JamieM — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:44:07 +0000

John, look at the top of the page. I’ve already addressed the post, I made the first comment. I was then addressing the dialogue that had begun.

Fair call on the drink driving though.

By: John

John — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:26:22 +0000

Hey Jamiem

What does your comment have to do with this post? Do you agree or disagree with my points and questions? The title of this post isn’t “the history of John’s posts regarding Peter Jackson”

And yes, when Jackson was wrong with how he manipulated Halo fans during the whole Halo debacle I called him on it.

With Mel Gibson, I publiclly said in posts and on the podcast he should be in jail, minimum 5 years for getting busted drunk driving.

Please comment on the post, not on me.

By: JamieM

JamieM — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:20:56 +0000

John, you’ve always been slightly antiJackson, admit it. I know you love the trilogy more than just about everything, but when it comes to discussing the man himself you’re always taking a negative approach.

Just like how with Mel Gibson you always tend to take a positive approach. Which makes no sense coz Mel is a madman and all Jackson ever did was ensure he got all that was owing to him.

By: John

John — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:01:19 +0000

Hey Gutpunch,

I speculate it because this has been Jackson’s baby. It has been his and his vision… I would speculate this no matter WHO it was we were talking about. For him to step back now and let another director take the helm would be VERY hard for whoever is involved.

And for the record, I’m not the only one who is hypothesizing (and I NEVER claimed it as fact… this site is all about opinion which is what I gave) that the details they were having a hard time with was the issue of control (sites like Salon and other are now speculating the same thing. I think it’s naive to not at least consider that option.

And yes… I did call Jackson a lying weasle once… a year ago… about another issue… because he was lying in that situation (who doesn’t in this business). But I’ve ALWAYS asserted my respect for him as an artist, including in this post.

If you want to intelligently debate with me, read my post, don’t put words in my mouth, stay on topic and debate the things I actually said in the post.

By: Gutpunch

Gutpunch — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:51:04 +0000

John.
Then why on earth are you speculating that Jackson will somehow try to control the production more than he should? There is absolutely nothing that indicates that this is the case of why they took so long officially announce the director. Why did you come to this conclusion?
Why would Jackson want a unique visionary like Del Toro if he wanted to control whoever was in the directors chair? These are baseless accusations that seem to be made to rile up the fans for some odd reason.
And why did I ask “why the hate?” Well you did call Jackson a “lying weasel” did you not?

By: Andee23

Andee23 — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:06:14 +0000

I think it all depends on how effective of a job Jackson did in setting up the Mythology and the world of Middle Earth in his films. Which in my opinion is very faithful to how Tolkien wrote it so it can act as a blue print for Del Toro to follow when making The Hobbit no matter how he envision the film he has to do within the parameters of the already establish world that Jackson created.

By: Andee23

Andee23 — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:05:17 +0000

I think it all on depends how effective of a job Jackson did in setting up the Mythology, and the Visual Geography of Middle Earth in his films. Which in my opinion is very faithful to how Tolkien, wrote it in his books so it can act as a blue print for Del Toro, to follow when making. The Hobbit no matter how he envision the film, he has to do within the parameters of the already establish world that Jackson created.

By: Andee23

Andee23 — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:01:38 +0000

I think it all depends how effective of a job Jackson did in setting up the Mythology and the world of Middle Earth in his films. Which in my opinion is very faithful to how Tolkien wrote it so it can act as a blue print for Del Toro to follow when making The Hobbit no matter how he envision the film he has to do within the parameters of the already establish world that Jackson created.