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	<title>Comments on: MPAA Says It Shouldn&#8217;t Need &#8220;Proof&#8221; When Charging Pirates</title>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2008/06/mpaa-says-it-shouldnt-need-proof-when-charging-pirates#comment-161159</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most people who download movies using p2p are movie lovers.  They find it easier to download rather than view by buying a platic coater / coffee mug platic thingy.

What stops most people downloading is the fear that the authorities might be watching.  Dargens allows downloading without giving out ip address.

People should pay for movies but the studios could help as well by making it to purchase and watch movies online.

Daniel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most people who download movies using p2p are movie lovers.  They find it easier to download rather than view by buying a platic coater / coffee mug platic thingy.</p>
<p>What stops most people downloading is the fear that the authorities might be watching.  Dargens allows downloading without giving out ip address.</p>
<p>People should pay for movies but the studios could help as well by making it to purchase and watch movies online.</p>
<p>Daniel</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya, the $150k per is ridiculous. If you go after the downloaders, hit them with a $30 per title fine. That way you get the sale and you can pad a little as a punishment. $150k is robbery and is a far worse crime than downloading. I download 10 movies, and I spend the rest of my life paying off $1.5 million? Right... Be realistic, MPAA, and you&#039;ll get far more support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya, the $150k per is ridiculous. If you go after the downloaders, hit them with a $30 per title fine. That way you get the sale and you can pad a little as a punishment. $150k is robbery and is a far worse crime than downloading. I download 10 movies, and I spend the rest of my life paying off $1.5 million? Right&#8230; Be realistic, MPAA, and you&#8217;ll get far more support.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2008/06/mpaa-says-it-shouldnt-need-proof-when-charging-pirates#comment-144324</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The MPAA gets what it deserves. It has treated the viewing public like crap for the past 30 years with its technophobia and greed. They said that the VHS tape would be the end of the movie industry. They were wrong. Movie rentals now account for more revenue than box office tickets. Had the MPAA gotten its act together and sold movie downloads it would be fine. It didn&#039;t get its act together. Now the genie is out of the bottle and it won&#039;t go back in. Millions of people all over the world are already used to a system whereby they can download DVDs for free. The studios that do offer movie downloads have more limitations than the free illegal downloads. At this point it&#039;s easier to steal than it is to pay so that&#039;s what people are going to do. This is not to mention that every year the studios set a record for their profits. If anything downloading movies has led to more people &quot;sampling&quot; movies and then buying the DVD or viewing a crappy camcorder version and then going to the theatre. Had the studios and MPAA had any creativity they would have charged a nominal fee for the same service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The MPAA gets what it deserves. It has treated the viewing public like crap for the past 30 years with its technophobia and greed. They said that the VHS tape would be the end of the movie industry. They were wrong. Movie rentals now account for more revenue than box office tickets. Had the MPAA gotten its act together and sold movie downloads it would be fine. It didn&#8217;t get its act together. Now the genie is out of the bottle and it won&#8217;t go back in. Millions of people all over the world are already used to a system whereby they can download DVDs for free. The studios that do offer movie downloads have more limitations than the free illegal downloads. At this point it&#8217;s easier to steal than it is to pay so that&#8217;s what people are going to do. This is not to mention that every year the studios set a record for their profits. If anything downloading movies has led to more people &#8220;sampling&#8221; movies and then buying the DVD or viewing a crappy camcorder version and then going to the theatre. Had the studios and MPAA had any creativity they would have charged a nominal fee for the same service.</p>
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		<title>By: NorCal Doggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>NorCal Doggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know what prison in Canada is like but here in the states 5 years is a long, long, long time. Its insane to get 5 years or any years for that matter just for videotaping a movie thats more than likely making a ton of money. Most people that go into prison for 5 years end up staying longer because they get into fights or even forced to kill people. So speak to someone who&#039;s been in prison for 5 years and tell them about this bull crap MPAA law they might just pull out a shank on principal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what prison in Canada is like but here in the states 5 years is a long, long, long time. Its insane to get 5 years or any years for that matter just for videotaping a movie thats more than likely making a ton of money. Most people that go into prison for 5 years end up staying longer because they get into fights or even forced to kill people. So speak to someone who&#8217;s been in prison for 5 years and tell them about this bull crap MPAA law they might just pull out a shank on principal.</p>
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		<title>By: craigiebaby</title>
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		<dc:creator>craigiebaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they charged a decent price in the first place &amp; synchronized the release dates then movie piracy would all but die out...
Over here in the UK a new Movie might cost anything up to £30 - 12 months later, it&#039;s in the bargin bin for half that price - another 6 months later - guess what - a quarter of the price!!! 
And don&#039;t try telling me that they&#039;re clearing stock and not making money on them by then - &#039;cause I just don&#039;t believe it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they charged a decent price in the first place &amp; synchronized the release dates then movie piracy would all but die out&#8230;<br />
Over here in the UK a new Movie might cost anything up to £30 &#8211; 12 months later, it&#8217;s in the bargin bin for half that price &#8211; another 6 months later &#8211; guess what &#8211; a quarter of the price!!!<br />
And don&#8217;t try telling me that they&#8217;re clearing stock and not making money on them by then &#8211; &#8217;cause I just don&#8217;t believe it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://themovieblog.com/2008/06/mpaa-says-it-shouldnt-need-proof-when-charging-pirates#comment-144075</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The music industry is one where illegal downloading has been hit the hardest. It’s practically gone now. Virgin megastores are closing everywhere. Tower Records, Wherehouse are both closing nationwide. Record companies are going bankrupt.&quot;


So, are they producing less music nowadays??? 
answer: Not really. So where is the problem. I know bands that got rich after some kids downloaded their music and created a real hype. 

And compared to the movie-industries, are there less movies? Is de budget shrinking? Is the industry financially in trouble? 
Answer: Eu..no, not really. They give kids with no directing skills 100 million dollar films to direct and bring out more blockbusters than we can dream of.


I agree it&#039;s wrong for somebody to camcorder a movie at the local theatre, but let&#039;s be honest. Compared to the multimilliondollar return at the box-office and dvd-sales, this can hardly be considered as a real problem. Who want to see a camcorder version anyway, where sound and image are total crap. 

If they kept a democratic pricetag and synchronised the releasedates, pirating would fade away. We should sew MPAA for leaking B-movies out on the internet to be able to attack Little Johnny for $150&#039;000. I don&#039;t have proof, but I guess I don&#039;t need any.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The music industry is one where illegal downloading has been hit the hardest. It’s practically gone now. Virgin megastores are closing everywhere. Tower Records, Wherehouse are both closing nationwide. Record companies are going bankrupt.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, are they producing less music nowadays???<br />
answer: Not really. So where is the problem. I know bands that got rich after some kids downloaded their music and created a real hype. </p>
<p>And compared to the movie-industries, are there less movies? Is de budget shrinking? Is the industry financially in trouble?<br />
Answer: Eu..no, not really. They give kids with no directing skills 100 million dollar films to direct and bring out more blockbusters than we can dream of.</p>
<p>I agree it&#8217;s wrong for somebody to camcorder a movie at the local theatre, but let&#8217;s be honest. Compared to the multimilliondollar return at the box-office and dvd-sales, this can hardly be considered as a real problem. Who want to see a camcorder version anyway, where sound and image are total crap. </p>
<p>If they kept a democratic pricetag and synchronised the releasedates, pirating would fade away. We should sew MPAA for leaking B-movies out on the internet to be able to attack Little Johnny for $150&#8242;000. I don&#8217;t have proof, but I guess I don&#8217;t need any.</p>
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		<title>By: 790</title>
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		<dc:creator>790</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donald,,, true story.  
   (Power of the internet). 
 Your gonna love this John!  

 I saw the trailer for the movie &quot;This Film is not Yet Rated&quot;.  
 In the trailer it shows the outside of the MPAA Los Angeles office. 
 I was shocked cause I know that building!   The building is in the San Fernando Valley just west of the 405 fwy on Ventura Bvld.  I allways wondered who was in that building because on the exterior gated walls there were mini tile-art pieces depicting famous movie scenes.    
 It all came together when I saw the trailer.  

I&#039;ve looked for the dvd in stores its tough to find.  I might have to resort to Amazon. ;-p.   

 Here&#039;s the kicker, I drove by that building about 2 weeks ago and all the tile-art was stripped off the gated walls and the building was up for lease.  

 The movie &quot;This Film Is Not Yet Rated&quot; drove the bastards out !!!!!!!!   There gone seeking a new secret location.  What a bunch of nazi scumbags.   
 Thanks Donald for reminding me of that, I totally forgot. 

 True story!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donald,,, true story.<br />
   (Power of the internet).<br />
 Your gonna love this John!  </p>
<p> I saw the trailer for the movie &#8220;This Film is not Yet Rated&#8221;.<br />
 In the trailer it shows the outside of the MPAA Los Angeles office.<br />
 I was shocked cause I know that building!   The building is in the San Fernando Valley just west of the 405 fwy on Ventura Bvld.  I allways wondered who was in that building because on the exterior gated walls there were mini tile-art pieces depicting famous movie scenes.<br />
 It all came together when I saw the trailer.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve looked for the dvd in stores its tough to find.  I might have to resort to Amazon. ;-p.   </p>
<p> Here&#8217;s the kicker, I drove by that building about 2 weeks ago and all the tile-art was stripped off the gated walls and the building was up for lease.  </p>
<p> The movie &#8220;This Film Is Not Yet Rated&#8221; drove the bastards out !!!!!!!!   There gone seeking a new secret location.  What a bunch of nazi scumbags.<br />
 Thanks Donald for reminding me of that, I totally forgot. </p>
<p> True story!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Donald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 07:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Donald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 07:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you haven&#039;t seen the documentary THIS FILM IS NOT YET RATED, which chronicles how criminal the MPAA is to film makers, I strongly suggest you run out and get a copy.

Also, to my knowledge the MPAA is a private organization. They are not run by the government. They aren&#039;t &#039;charging&#039; anyone with anything. They can lobby (as they are in this case) that a government do something in their favor, but it is not the MPAA who is charging anyone. They can, like any private entity, press charges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you haven&#8217;t seen the documentary THIS FILM IS NOT YET RATED, which chronicles how criminal the MPAA is to film makers, I strongly suggest you run out and get a copy.</p>
<p>Also, to my knowledge the MPAA is a private organization. They are not run by the government. They aren&#8217;t &#8216;charging&#8217; anyone with anything. They can lobby (as they are in this case) that a government do something in their favor, but it is not the MPAA who is charging anyone. They can, like any private entity, press charges.</p>
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		<title>By: FullMetal Patch</title>
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		<dc:creator>FullMetal Patch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 06:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post, John.

I&#039;m with TheMovieVampire, the quote listed doesn&#039;t actually say they think they don&#039;t NEED proof, but I&#039;m assuming that either there have been clarifying remarks or there is more to the quote somewhere.

I do agree with you that the consumer shouldn&#039;t be prosecuted--and by consumer, I mean the person at the very end of the chain, the one downloading the pirated file; you&#039;re right that by doing so, Big Entertainment (if I might steal a page from the anti-tobacco crowd&#039;s book) is slowly alienating a large portion of their potential fan base.  Instead, I think it would behoove B.E. to pour more resources into developing online movie rental platforms, such as those available from Netflix, to make renting a digital file more quickly and more easily.

It&#039;s not that hard: follow the existing model of a certain time period in which content expires after the initial playback instance, then dedicate enough bandwidth to the platform to make sure the movie downloads FAST.  I guarantee that the casual &quot;pirated product&quot; consumer will pay a couple of bucks to get a fast, easy download that includes the extras in DVD or Blu-Rya format rather than a low-quality .AVI file.  Then you add the option to buy the product, less the rental price, if you enjoyed it, and you&#039;ve just increased your online sales by a good percentage, I&#039;ll bet.

With the advent of the digital age, of course it&#039;s becoming more difficult to find proof of piracy!  Big Entertainment should really learn to ride the wave; instead, they just keep trying to sue all the fish in the ocean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post, John.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with TheMovieVampire, the quote listed doesn&#8217;t actually say they think they don&#8217;t NEED proof, but I&#8217;m assuming that either there have been clarifying remarks or there is more to the quote somewhere.</p>
<p>I do agree with you that the consumer shouldn&#8217;t be prosecuted&#8211;and by consumer, I mean the person at the very end of the chain, the one downloading the pirated file; you&#8217;re right that by doing so, Big Entertainment (if I might steal a page from the anti-tobacco crowd&#8217;s book) is slowly alienating a large portion of their potential fan base.  Instead, I think it would behoove B.E. to pour more resources into developing online movie rental platforms, such as those available from Netflix, to make renting a digital file more quickly and more easily.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that hard: follow the existing model of a certain time period in which content expires after the initial playback instance, then dedicate enough bandwidth to the platform to make sure the movie downloads FAST.  I guarantee that the casual &#8220;pirated product&#8221; consumer will pay a couple of bucks to get a fast, easy download that includes the extras in DVD or Blu-Rya format rather than a low-quality .AVI file.  Then you add the option to buy the product, less the rental price, if you enjoyed it, and you&#8217;ve just increased your online sales by a good percentage, I&#8217;ll bet.</p>
<p>With the advent of the digital age, of course it&#8217;s becoming more difficult to find proof of piracy!  Big Entertainment should really learn to ride the wave; instead, they just keep trying to sue all the fish in the ocean.</p>
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