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WTF?!? An X-Men 3 Question For Everyone
Ok, I don’t know why this suddenly popped into my head this morning… but for whatever reason it did. Someone help me out with this.
Now, I actually liked X-Men 3. Yes, it was the weakest of the three, but I still found it entertaining despite its flaws (watching Hank McCoy, AKA “Beast”, in battle was actually kind of awesome). So this question isn’t me bitching, and I don’t know why I didn’t think of this before. So here it goes:
In X-Men 3 they find a “cure” for mutants that takes away their powers and makes them normal humans. The cure comes from a young Mutant named Leech whose power negates mutant powers. So…. if his mutant powers is to shut off mutant powers… why did his power still work??? I know I know… stupid question for a post… but now it’s bothering me. :P
Aha, you must not have seen the scene where they explain that Leech has the -X gene, Where X – X = Human!
Hey Ricci,
Sorry if I sound like an idiot (it does happen), but if it “=human”, then why does he have a power in the first place?
I think it is like getting a liver transplant. Your body doesn’t fight off its own organs since there is a biochemical equilibrium, but after a transplant the new host will react to the “foreign organ” (insert witty Nagyism here).
Leech is in some mutated state that is in harmony, but when he injects his DNA (another opportunity for Doug) into a fellow mutant, there is a reaction.
It’s not uncommon for diseases and such to act this way. A person can contract a disease and be a carrier even though they are themselves immune. It won’t affect them, but can infect those that they come into contact with.
Hey Chip,
Good answer. I’m still a bit perplexed because mutants didn’t need his DNA injected into them in order to lose their powers… they just had to be anywhere near him. His power, was to shut off all mutant powers anywhere close to him… yet no one was closer to him… than him.
I’m so confused :P
Hey Levi,
An excellent point… but in this case, it’s not a disease that attacks the body (ie. the carrier is immune to the disease), but rather a disease that turns off all disease.
In your (excellent) point, the Human Torch has flame power… but his body is immune to it, so he doesn’t burn up. But this is a situation where the power itself is both the cause and effect. A paradox I say! A paradox!
I would go with levi answer…..
Ok John, I have a question for you. How does a bite from a radioactive spider make a guy able to climb walls. :) I think Stan Lee is the one you need to get on the line. Maybe a guest for the next podcast?
John…this should be a question on the SAT test we all take in high-school.
Hey Chip
Steroids
to further the Xmen 3 question, why didnt they just throw that damn kid at Jean grey when she went nuts instead of having wolverine kill her????
E-Gad Parker! Another excellent question!!! Maybe it also had something to do with Steroids!
Parker,
I have wondered that too! Maybe they were saving that sequence for X4.
What about Rogue? Her powers work in a similar fashion don’t they? Maybe Leech’s powers are more of a “drain” than an elimination of other mutant’s abilities. We see at the end that Magneto’s powers are starting to reemerge.
Only problem with an X-MEN 4 (other than half the characters being dead or de-powered from THE LAST STAND) is having to sit through more Halle Berry.
To be fair, I liked her as Storm. But she was nothing to write home about in terms of performance.
uhm isn’t like… a mutant that controls fire is not affected by fire… When an animal is venomis it is (in most cases) imune to its own venom…
prehaps it also like – and – = +… mathematicly speaking…
Hey Flyingdutchman,
See my previous response to Levi above
I think Leech had to touch a mutant for them to loose their powers in the comic, and it lasted for an indeterminant period time.
I’m not sure how to explain the mechanics of the power in the movie… Maybe it was just done to make the power more obvious to the audiance?
Hey Hersch
Yeah, in the movie Beast just had to stretch his hand out towards Leech and his hand turned “normal”. Juggy just had to be in the same room with him for his power to turn completely off (thus running into the wall and knocking himself out)
Well John, if that was the one plot hole that bothered you in this film, then congratulations, you managed to get much more enjoyement out of it than I did.
@John
My mutant pseudoscience may be a bit rusty but I believe it has always been established that most mutants are immune to their own powers, even blood related mutants are somewhat immune to each others powers as well. Although since mutants by their very nature are unpredictable, this isn’t always true, there some cases in the comics where mutants have fallen victim to their own powers.
Hey Monty,
A valid point sir… but once again, please refer to a previous response in this thread I wrote to LEVI.
Cheers!
I think this is just a case of bad story telling. It would have been better to stick with the orginal story of Apocalypse in disguise as human to help create a virus to kill mutants and in the end they discover the cure through wolverines mutant healing ablities.
As for X3 oops of a story its just contridicting itself. You can try to explain it anyway you like however if we can ground this in some kind of reality then its just as stupid as Magneto being able to attract metal but at the same time being anti-magnetic.
the powers leech hasin the comics is kinda like rogues, he nulifiys mutants powers and can release a weaker version of said power against a foe.
However his woudnt explain how it could create a cure, if could perhaps further mutate a persons genes to supress there powers.
All I can think of is that the cure was to make all Mutants the same as Leech, which would make them all still mutants but there power would be the ability to nulify power and thus would be for all powerless and for appearace sake, human.
My first post I ment Leech had a negative X gene, where as mutants had a positive X gene, when combined they cancel each other out, resulting in human DNA!
You guys shouldn’t be reading so much into this. But, I’ll throw a comment on the fire just for the heck of it. Since this characters powers reverse the effects of genetic mutation, it seems he’d also be a cure for cancer. I think that would have been the more marketable pharma application.
Hey Ricci,
Yes… however… if the two cancel each other out… then Leech has no power to cancel out in the first place. Perplexing! :P
Hey John,
Comic geek here and I’m pretty sure that I read once that Leech’s powers work via pheromones. These pheromones don’t negate the affected mutant’s power. They just make them temporally unable to access them. He doesn’t need to touch the person for his powers to have an affect. It would be perfectly understandable for Leech to be immune to the pheromones the he produces. Of course Hollywood as they are like to do attempted to combine to major plot lines (the dark Phoenix Saga & the Legacy Virus Saga) in the Xmen mythos into one movie and screwed up both. Damn I wish Marvel would get the rights to all of their properties back. I think Iron Man proved that comic book people should be the ones making comic book movies. .
I’m pretty sure all x-fans at one point or another have wracked their brains on how the powers of specific mutants have worked, in the case of Leech one theory may be that his dampening field is a form of energy that he himself is immune to, but this raises the question of how does using Leech’s DNA cure mutants of their powers? Wouldn’t it just give other mutants Leech’s powers?
Perhaps it’s some sort of phermone.
This reminds me of Darren having an issue with Sandman because he just wasn’t plausible. But had no problem with pretty much every other impossible super power concept in comic books.
I think the paradox of his negating power not negating his negating power falls into the “your powers dont work on yourself” quality.
Human Torch can’t burn himself, Iceman doesn’t get hypothermia and for some reason Havok’s blasts cant hurt Cyclops and vice versa.
Just sayin.
Hey Rodney,
For the third time in this thread… see my comment to LEVI above
:P
Another analogy would simply be that his power is that it is designed to repel other powers. Its effect is external to its use.
Guns can’t shoot at themselves, but they are well capable of shooting.
I would imagine if another mutant with Leech’s power would be able to stop Leech from doing his power.
Leech in the comics could control his power whereas this mutant seems to be an always-on area effect. Leech’s best bud Artie was a mute who is a mutant with the ability to project images. Literally he made his own comic book speech bubbles with pictograms in it. The two were inseparable and Artie’s powers worked fine around Leech.
There are many sci-fi and fantasy films which have odd contradictions, paradoxes or, upon repeated viewings, small plot holes that doesn’t make a whole ton of sense but, for the most part, the story moves along…because in that first (or second) viewing, “we” aren’t supposed to think about things like that.
Some plot devices/unanswered questions could be intentional, and exploited in a sequel if the filmmakers choose to do so, or just let it be and have the fanbase have an interesting debate and discussion.
I’m guilty of this too, John. My favorite WTF question I pose to people is about Aliens and how Burke (Paul Rieser) turned off monitors, went inside medlab, took two facehuggers without making a lot of noise, put them in a room where two people lay asleep AND snuck off with a pulse rifle then then went back to ops and turned the monitors back on without being noticed by anyone else. Note at this time, Bishop is in the service duct-pipe.
I drive people nuts with that shit. It’s just one of those things.
And that’s how it is with Leech in X3. Just one of those things.
And hell yeah, I’ll take a crack at it. Here we go.
The next to last scene of the film has Magneto powerless. However, a small hint of it still remains. This may suggest that “the cure” isn’t permanent, but is only active for a short time. Maybe a few days to a week, although some mutants may take more time than others.
This was also pointed out when Beast went towards Leech, and examined his own hand. Pulls hand away from Leech, fur appears again (*how long does it take for blue hair to grow back? eh, second thought, don’t answer that) …so…follow me here…
What does Leech look like?
While there is a possibility his genetics and/or body fuctions may be slightly manipulated through drugs given to him by “the doctors” for better or worse, if that isn’t the case…consider this…
His power is slowly killing him. It’s like having a cancer in the body that the body’s immunity fights, but it is a constant stalemate. Hence, that’s why Leech looks like a mix-match between a healthy child and a sick one. His power/DNA only has a temporary effect on other mutants. (Indeed, why NOT give three mutants in a prison truck the cocktail? The guards had the gear)
@Grave
” It would have been better to stick with the orginal story of Apocalypse in disguise as human to help create a virus to kill mutants ”
Y’know what? I wish an X-Men 4 or X-Force flick would be made, and somewhere we find out that Apoc was there and discovered. How would they know about Leech unless they tried it on a mutant already at close range and/or injecting a mutant to know it works?
But again, one of those things…
@Grave
“just as stupid as Magneto being able to attract metal but at the same time being anti-magnetic”
Magneto is not magnetic. Nor is he anti magnetic. He has the ability to control magnetic forces. Metal things don’t stick to him as he walks by. But at will he can move or manipulate metal things using magnetism.
The way I see it, it’s “he’s a carrier who’s not infected argument.” In some cases, we see people who carry disease (or in this case, cure), but aren’t necessarily infected by what they carry (i.e. Typhoid Mary, know for spreading Typhoid but being immune to it). That seems to be the case for Leech; just because he carries a cure in his blood doesn’t mean the cure necessarily works on him.
My head just went boom:)
Kristina… you think that was brainmeats damage.
Imagine what would happen if they shot Leech with one of the cure guns.
Uh-oh.
(Maybe the dingo ate your mutant)
I think you missed my point Rodney
Im saying Leeches ablities in the film are just as stupid as Magneto being able to attract metal yet not being magnetic.
Im not talking directly talking about his powers or ablities in the film or comics. It was an off – beat example.
That is the least of X-Men 3’s problems. The entire movie sucked. It crapped all over everything Brian Singer set up in the first two films.
The “cure” is a derivative (grown in labs) of Leech’s power. I believe that if they injected him with the “cure” he would loose his ability to turn off powers.
His own power would not disable his power because he’s like an emmitter, like a field around you, but you are not part of it’s area of influence.
I think of Leech’s ability as force field. His body creates a bubble around him that negates other mutant powers.
I was wondering the same thing when i first saw the same movie, but then i started to think, maybe his powers do in fact affect him.
Think of this, if his powers affect him, then his powers turn off, which stop to affect him, so his powers turn back on, and so on and so on. Therefore when looking at the effects, you just dont notice them turning off.
Think of a light bulb, a bulb does not give off non stop light, it flickers thousands of times a second, which is unnoticeable to us. Maybe his powers flicker just the same, which are unnoticed by people around him.
I would say that the power works like a field. Imagine a cloaking field. It SUROUNDS the X-Jet, but does not actually touch it. Thus, it is just beyond Leechs’ reach at all times so he is not affected. Sort of like how Cannonball is invulnerable, but only when going at fast speeds because of a protecting field which surounds him. Leechs’ field is active at all times though.
I guess the technical answer would be he is not a “mutant”, but something else that negates the “mutant” gene.
Hey Kevin C
Man, if they didn’t specifically call him a mutant in the movie, I’d say you just gave the best answer I read all day. That would have totally made more sense to me.
maybe its the next step in evolution a la jean grey
maybe its like a snake who has venom that owns people but the snake itself doesn’t get owned… it has an antivenom. This leech kid may have some anti____ that doesn’t affect him.
If Rogue touches her face with her hand she won’t absorb her power.
Campea your a baller in Hollywood. Flip that rolodex of yours and phone up whoever made this movie and ask him, or ask the writers. Your in a better position than any of us low level society members to answer the question.
I have an X-Men question that I’ve wanted answered for a while: What the hell does it take to kill Wolverine? He takes a bullet at near point-blank range to the head in X2 and survives. Gets stabbed the hell up by Deathstrike in X2 and survives. Almost gets spontaneously combusted by the Phoenix-in-name-only in X3 and survives. What do you have to do? If you decapitate him, will his head grow back?
There’s only one thing that can kill Wolverine; the management at Fox.
Some of this conversation reminds me of something that happened with some friends back in the day when watching… the first X-Men film I believe it was. It happened right after Wolverine spun around on the edge of the Statue of Liberty spike using his claws. One of my friends remarked,
“That’s not possible, the laws of physics wouldn’t allow you to spin all the way around like that”.
At that moment the other 4 people in the room, at the same time remarked,
“He has F***in Adamantium Claws coming out of his hands!”
I have read your Levi response a dozen times. I don’t think it disproves the answer that Leech is immune to himself.
There’s no paradox if he is immune.
Similar to Leech, Rogue doesn’t feel effects from her own power.
Also, the power isn’t absolute. Beast’s arm returned to normal after minimal exposure. Even Magneto began regaining his powers after maximum exposure, so by no means is Leech’s power a permanent effect.
And as a final solution, (a personal answer of my own) I think all mutant powers are controllable. Mystique can control her transformation. Colossus can control his. The movie shows Leech as just having the power on all the time, but in the comics, he was able to learn to control it over time and became able to control it consciously. All powers can be controlled, but the user may not ever learn how in some cases. In certain comic story lines, even Rogue learns to control her power consciously. So for my own answer, I think Leech is subconsciously controlling his power to the extent that he protects his own survival. Technically speaking, if the movie version of Leech ever learned to control his powers consciously (instead of subconsciously), he could then override his subconscious protection and use his own power to negate itself.
Hey Calviin
The “immunity” arguement fails here (at least in my understanding of this totally make believe world we’re talking about) because examples of Human Torch, Rouge, Ice Man ect… are all talking about how:
Their BODIES, are immune to their POWER
The human torch’s BODY is immune to his flame POWER
Rouge’s BODY is immune to her life sucking POWER
Leech (in the movie) is a different issue. Leech’s BODY isn’t the question… it’s his POWER. The POWER is both the cause AND the effect. I don’t know that there has ever been an example of a character’s POWER being immune to their POWER. See my confusion?
As far as your point about “all mutant powers are controllable”, that isn’t true. Look at Cyclops. His power is always “on”. Beast, Rouge, Sabertooth, Wolverine… ect. ect. ect. Their powers are not able to be turned “off” or controlled.
As a side note… I love this whole discussion!
Speaking of Wolvie, new pics from the set here with BIG TIME spoilers.
http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/24430762.html#cutid1
@Kristina – How do you kill Wolverine? I don’t imagine you can, unless you cut off his head and kept it away from his body. If you didn’t I imagine it would reattach itself. His accelerated healing factor is what keeps him from dying from inflicted injuries. Even in the comic when Magneto sucks the adamantium out of his body he survives and remains ‘indestructible’ though his claws then became bones and those would break…ouch.
@Phi Gee -LOL, funny.
Just because they DON’T turn off the power, doesn’t prove they CAN’T learn how. You can’t perform open heart surgery, but you could learn. And just because you can learn, doesn’t meant you will learn.
I already pointed out IN the comment you are responding to that Rogue DID learn to control her powers in the comics. This universe has already proven that she CAN control them if she learns how.
Other examples that powers are controlable:
In Wolverine #100, Wolverine LOSES control of his healing power.
Beast has a feral side of his power that he has to control consciously.
In X-Men: Evolution, Beast managed to control his mutation with a serum.
In the Exiles storyline, Sabertooth learned to have partial control over his powers.
The only example you list that can’t control his powers is Cyclops, and the reason is because he suffered brain damage as a youth.
When Scott was a boy growing up in Anchorage, Alaska, his father took the family for a flight in his plane. It came under attack and as the plane went down in flames, Scott’s parents fasten him and his younger brother Alex into a parachute and push them off the plane, in hopes that they would survive. Unfortunately, the parachute catches fire and Scott strikes his head upon landing. This causes brain damage to Scott, which is responsible for his inability to control his optic blasts, as well as prolonged amnesia about his childhood.
I welcome any other mutants that you want to learn about their history of controlling their powers, but I also hope by now you understand that they can in fact learn to control them.
“The POWER is both the cause AND the effect.”
Not sure if this is an apt analogy… Radiation therapy is used to treat cancer, but too much radiation can also cause cancer. Some chemotherapy drugs can also cause cancer in high enough doses. Therefore something that can act as a cure can also be the cause if exposed to it for too long. Leech has been exposed to his own power since birth so… uh… I dunno, does that work?
Hey Calviin,
You’re confusing the comic book world with the X-Men movie universe. In the movie universe some mutants just simply can NOT control their powers. Beast says that directly in his conversation with Storm when they’re talking about the merits of a “cure”.
They just can’t.
Three things to note about the movie X-men universe.
1: They haven’t had enough time yet to learn. Rogue and Leech are still too young to have learned yet.
2: Beast can be wrong. If characters weren’t wrong sometimes, movies would be too predictable. Beast bases his claim that they can’t on the reason that he doesn’t see any reason that they could.
3: Beast can also be technically right. Yes, some mutant might not be able to control their powers for a few reasons. As I stated, Cyclops can’t control his due to brain damage. Similarly, some mutant can’t control their powers because it could kill them if they did. If Wolverine ever learned to turned off his healing power, the adamantium would kill him. (Unless they follow the storyline where Magneto removes the adamantium from his body first.)
I realize that I am using the comic book world to answer your questions, but since they never specifically answer your question during the movies, the only answers to your question have to come from outside of the movie. If you limit us to only using the movie for reference, well nobody can answer your question. Right now, in my clearly biased opinion, the best answer you’ve got is the one I gave you.
Heres my last stab…it comes down to macro evolution of the mutant x-gene. All other mutants are a type of micro evolution within the mutant species, where Leech is a macro-evolution into another species of mutant altogether. That frees him of being affected by his own power because he isnt the same “species”, but he is still a “mutant” in terms because he is the only one and perhaps at the time, unclassified. So like someone earlier said, he is another leap in the evolution of the xmen universe..
I think the absolute statement that all powers can be controlled has no foundation. We have seen examples of powers that you claim are uncontrollable simply because they hadnt learned how.
Where is your basis for this? Who said they all had that common quality of control? There is a big difference between regulating a power’s use and being able to turn it on and off.
And the examples you give? Wolverine didn’t lose control of his healing powers. They didn’t just stop on him. They always heal. He cannot control this to the point that he cannot heal.
Beast’s feral side is not a power but a personality flaw. His bold intellect struggles against heightened human instinct.
Many Mutant’s powers come with physical abnormalities. Nightcrawler has blue fine fur and yellow eyes. Can he “control” that? Its a part of his power.
And what about super strength? Sure they can regulate it so they don’t crush loved ones in a hug, but they can’t “control” it and make it impossible to lift something heavy. Its just there.
Just because a lot of powers CAN be controlled is a poor argument to insist that they all CAN be. Its never been stated that powers all have variables of control. Some just cant.
Heres an intresting note. In the film Beast gets close to Leech at a point in the film when he does his hand changes from blue and hairy to normal. However in the comics Beast blue hair came from a lab accident not his mutant ablities. Some of you will say “But Grave, they could have changed his back story in the film.” But in fact in the earlier films Singer had a small cameo of Beast without blue hair doing a TV interview. So this fact can prove how much continunity and poor story telling this film has and just accept Leech’s character and ablities was a mistake. So stop making up reasons to how Leech’s powersr work.
you wouldn’t be able to decapitate ol’ wolverines head because his spine runs up to his medulla which is at the bae of the brain and is made out of adamantium. (even if you tried to avoid the spine and go halfway, his skull is metal). as a result, your sword (because your nerds) would make a “tink” noise and wolverine would be unphased (except for blood squirting about). if adamantium is indestrubile, it is literally impossible to kill wolverine unless you vaporize him, in which case his adamantium rigid exoskeleton would be left.
lastly, everyone, campea included, needs to relax. its a movie. we could dissect countless movies in this way, starting with matrix: how the fuck do you get outlets in the back of your head without interfering with vital brain structures like the said medulla. just let it go. leech is a phenom and someone should just shoot the poor bastard and end misery to all mutants.
ON A SIDE NOTE INTRODUCE GUMBO IN X4 AND THEN START ASKING WHY HE LIGHTS SHIT UP
Hey CVDV,
Dude… you need to relax. Like it says right in the post… it’s just a stupid post. It’s just fun sometimes to talk about and debate geek things.
@CVDV-just because you don’t understand the concept of brain plugs, does not discount the fact that it might work. I do not know how a computer works, nor a pacemaker, it does not mean that they do not do what they do.
@SEB-I like the light switch idea, but once the mutant power, negates the mutant gene, I have a hard time seeing how the gene would mysteriously start back up again
@Kevin C- I think he’s got the answer. Where he may be a mutant, this does not mean that he is the same type of mutant. The term mutant is very broad IMHO. It may be possible that there are more than (ant the proper term eludes me) “places” on the specific chromosome that are mutated. Thereore, while one sezuence of genes causes the power, another sequence on the same X chormosome actually prevent it from functioning on that being. OR, the mutation may affect a specific part of the chormosome on other mutants, but leech himself has a mutation at a different segment of the chomosome, which means it can’t be affected.
@Chip CHief-actually they do show how peter parker can climb walls, there is a close up of the small hook projections that grow on the tips of peter’s fingers and hands. Microscopic they may be, but very adhesive at the same time. That is how most insects can clim on even what appers to be “slippery” surfaces such as glass
Finaly- on a personal note-the most dissapointing, and I mean DISSAPOINTING flaw in comic book movies in the past few years for me is in batman begins. They utilise a microwave machine to vaporise water. My quarell with this is that humans, along with all other animals contain water. In our case about 75-80%. Therefore, once this machine was activated, all the humans should have vaporised as well. I like the entire Batman Begins movie up to that point, I thought it was very “real” but for my satisfaction, I disregard the 10 or so minutes in which that machine is functioning and so on.
If someone could give me an answer to the microwave machine, I would be GREATlY appritiative. Beacause it ruins the end of batman begins for me
@Xanther
I have an answer for your quarries in Batman Begins. The thing is mis-information. Many people say that the human body is made up of mostly water. However anytime I cut myself water doesnt come out. Honestly the human body is made up of “moisture” not excatly water. The idea is that H2o can be a solid,gas or liquid. Of course it takes diffrent criteria to change one form to another. Not the machine was designed to change liquid to gas, however it wasnt designed to change solid to gas. There in turn is your answer. The machine was only powerful enough to change the molecules from liquid to gas and if you figure the human body as a solid with moisture then humans are safe however the machine would result in humans sweating alot and our sweat could be vaporized to gas but since there so much moisture to begin with it would take quite awhile b4 we lose our moisture dramaticly enough to kill us in the 20 mins of the films ending. Hope this eases your mind.
It was an error of me to say Wolverine could turn off his healing. Historically, the comics have shown that his healing power can change speeds. I should have said that he could learn to control it so that it wouldn’t keep up with the effect of adamantium. And you’re right, there is a difference between controlling and turning it off. But since I wasn’t saying that Leech turns his power off, it still seems to make sense that he has a subconscious control to prevent an effect on himself.
And regarding Grave’s comment, Beast does originally get his blue fur from a lab mistake, but the experiment was with a mutgenic serum, specifically used to give regular human short term mutant powers. When he uses it on himself, he not only gets blue fur, but gets other mutant powers like the ability to run on walls and ceilings like a spider, enhanced senses, an accelerated healing factor, and a feral side he struggles to control. And later on, when he gains a secondary mutation, his features develop even more feline and animal features, which indicates that his physical mutation is related to his powers.
I guess one (possible) way of thinking about it is that the chemical that is being generated by Leech comes from his skin, like what was discussed early.
Although taking into account John’s query, why would this chemical not be absorbed by Leech and negate his powers, rendering the ability useless.
Maybe the chemical needs to enter the blood stream to take effect, and it is his glands producing this chemical in a proximity around his body. His bloody stream may have antibodies that are breaking down the chemical as his own body absorbs it, thus removing it from his system.
Or potentially the chemical must enter the blood stream and it effects the brain, which a chemical in the brain breaking it down before it creates the negating effect.
A theory would be that maybe Leech originally had two powers, one that gave him an immunity to poisons and toxins (like Wolverines healing power), and another that he secreted, such as a toxin, maybe established from when he was young. As he aged, the combination of the two (the broken down toxin he was secreting, and his immunity to particular, or this toxins) mutated into a new, single ability, which was the suppression of the mutant X gene, therefore he was uneffected due to his body breaking down the suppression ability, and using the remains of this broken down suppression toxin for his body to generate more that his glands secrete.
Just a theory…
Alright Xanther, firstly, I’ve studied the human brain and have learnt about it for about three and a half years. I know where certain parts of the brain are, the medulla, the occipital lobe, frontial lobe, etc., and I can guarantee you 1000% over that a “brainplug” in that region of the brain where matrix depicts, and according to the length of the piece that goes into the outlet, it would just interfere with everything up there and cause death. Theres know two ways about it. Death.
Also, do they not clearly state that he has the mutant X gene? That just rebutes everything you all say about him not being a mutant.
To hit upon Graves and Xanthers thoughts: The human body is very much composed of water. Our skin has a layer of oil which has a component of water. We have aquaporins that regulate water movement in our body. We have water in our digestive tracts, stomach, etc. Its a component of saliva and therefore, lubricates our entire body. Its a component of our red blood cells, although RBCs are mostly a heme portion it has a component of water. HOWEVER, I clearly remember Gordon being like “why haven’t we felt the effects”, and to this Fox replies along the lines of “it has to be inhaled” therefore, it has to be a vapour. Now, call me stupid but the water that composes the things I just mentioned are so tiny that it would hardly make a difference that would result in death. So to really ease your mind: although we have small components of water, the MW emitter would vapourize the water, but it would have inconsequential effects. So its not like we would vapourize, but instead we will no doubt feel very dehydrated and that would probably lead to our death. If we were the senator from the first X-men, then we might as well start writing our goodbye notes
Thank you Grave for bringing up earlier the Beast hair issue that bugged me in X3. Hank McCoy appeared non-furred in the first film. So, one would assume the blue hair was not mutant power related (because as also stated, mutant power start to appear around puberty, so all of Beasts ‘mutant’ effects should have long since manifested themselves). So the logical explanation for the blue fur is just like the comics, he altered himself. His ‘powers’ are just his agility and such.
So, if the blue fur is a genetic alteration, it shouldn’t vanish when he goes near Leach.
SHANE:
I’m guessing you missed my response to Grave, here:
And regarding Grave’s comment, Beast does originally get his blue fur from a lab mistake, but the experiment was with a mutgenic serum, specifically used to give regular human short term mutant powers. When he uses it on himself, he not only gets blue fur, but gets other mutant powers like the ability to run on walls and ceilings like a spider, enhanced senses, an accelerated healing factor, and a feral side he struggles to control. And later on, when he gains a secondary mutation, his features develop even more feline and animal features, which indicates that his physical mutation is related to his powers.
Well…another question is this. Remember in X-Men 1 when we saw her touch herself after kissing that boy and sucking his lifeforce?…but how can Rogue even touch herself without zapping her ownself? Same principles. It’s obvious that your mutant powers can’t effect yourself.
Well, at the end, it is implyed (spoiler for those who haven’t seen the film) that the cure didn’t work. So if they do make X4, Magneto, Mystique, and Rogue should get their powers back.
X4: Rise of the Sentinels is coming!!!! [Laughs]
My what the fuck, oh, sorry, WTF question is this:
What the fuck was the point with Angel? He didn’t even need to be in the story!
Thanks Calvin!
That actually makes perfect sense. You restored my possible enjoyment of X3 now, it was wavering there for an hour of so.
As for this Leech problem, I’m prepared to accept the rationale that for whatever reason, his power doesn’t effect his own power.
After all, it’s best not to think too deeply about the whole mutant thing. I mean really, why would humanity’s next stage of evolution need to involve shooting useless beams of laser out of your eyes constantly unless you wear a specially crafted visor. Bet Darwin never predicted something like that would happen!
I’m still thinking about what Parker said…why the hell didn’t they just use that damn kid against Jean Grey???
Plot LOOPHOLE I tell you!!!