Comments on: Variety “Boycott” – Follow up http://themovieblog.com/2008/07/variety-boycott-follow-up The Official Home of Correct Movie Opinions Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:28:59 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: TaraLeigh http://themovieblog.com/2008/07/variety-boycott-follow-up#comment-146770 TaraLeigh Sun, 06 Jul 2008 02:45:06 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/07/variety-boycott-follow-up#comment-146770 It's HORRIBLE that ANY journalist or media outlet would engage in illegal copyright violation and PLAGIARISM then be so damn dismissive about it. I guess Variety believes y'all can't get a firm to take this on a win contingency basis therefore they're safe from any measureable civil damages. I wish that someone had the green to push this into motions and proceedings and drag it out long enough for Variety and its parent corp to be hurt. I recall the good ol' days of Fox legal sending cease and decist (sp?- sheesh)letters to any site that had content even remotely considered theirs. *sigh* Anyway, I guess I prefer legal action, presumably very public legal action, however costly it may be, to boycotts. It’s HORRIBLE that ANY journalist or media outlet would engage in illegal copyright violation and PLAGIARISM then be so damn dismissive about it. I guess Variety believes y’all can’t get a firm to take this on a win contingency basis therefore they’re safe from any measureable civil damages. I wish that someone had the green to push this into motions and proceedings and drag it out long enough for Variety and its parent corp to be hurt. I recall the good ol’ days of Fox legal sending cease and decist (sp?- sheesh)letters to any site that had content even remotely considered theirs. *sigh* Anyway, I guess I prefer legal action, presumably very public legal action, however costly it may be, to boycotts.

]]> By: Chris http://themovieblog.com/2008/07/variety-boycott-follow-up#comment-146332 Chris Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:47:19 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/07/variety-boycott-follow-up#comment-146332 The cliche in main stream media is that all blogs do bad reporting and just ripe off mainstream media stories without giving credit. They would in a sense be living out the cliche. Also, I think that John should try to be above these guys and not wallow in the mud with these Variety clowns The cliche in main stream media is that all blogs do bad reporting and just ripe off mainstream media stories without giving credit. They would in a sense be living out the cliche. Also, I think that John should try to be above these guys and not wallow in the mud with these Variety clowns

]]> By: Slushie Man http://themovieblog.com/2008/07/variety-boycott-follow-up#comment-146300 Slushie Man Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:44:03 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/07/variety-boycott-follow-up#comment-146300 "so that at the end you are left blameless" Why should they care if they're blamed or not? It's not illegal, they can't get in any trouble from doing this. I fail to see your point. “so that at the end you are left blameless”

Why should they care if they’re blamed or not? It’s not illegal, they can’t get in any trouble from doing this. I fail to see your point.

]]> By: Chris http://themovieblog.com/2008/07/variety-boycott-follow-up#comment-146282 Chris Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:41:04 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/07/variety-boycott-follow-up#comment-146282 Rodney, I have to say I respect you. I think its kind of a bad idea to go out and simply to do others what they are doing to you. In the end it can't go well. You guys in this time need to act in a manner that is above what Variety is doing, so that at the end you are left blameless. Don't just prove the point that all blogs don't give credit. Also, if Variety wants to keep up the illusion that they are the only relevant source. I think you need to show everyone just how irrelevant they really are. Rodney, I have to say I respect you. I think its kind of a bad idea to go out and simply to do others what they are doing to you. In the end it can’t go well. You guys in this time need to act in a manner that is above what Variety is doing, so that at the end you are left blameless. Don’t just prove the point that all blogs don’t give credit. Also, if Variety wants to keep up the illusion that they are the only relevant source. I think you need to show everyone just how irrelevant they really are.

]]> By: IRIS http://themovieblog.com/2008/07/variety-boycott-follow-up#comment-146274 IRIS Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:50:17 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/07/variety-boycott-follow-up#comment-146274 i read a very popular gossip site. and they have complained constantly that people magazine, cnn and other majors, when reporting the stories that they break do not give credit. so on my part i am inclined to believe that the majors, all have this rule about unaffiliated websites. for the record people now, gives credit i guess boycotting and telling everyone worked for this other website. and i hope it works for you. i read a very popular gossip site. and they have complained constantly that people magazine, cnn and other majors, when reporting the stories that they break do not give credit. so on my part i am inclined to believe that the majors, all have this rule about unaffiliated websites. for the record people now, gives credit i guess boycotting and telling everyone worked for this other website. and i hope it works for you.

]]> By: BrDanzig http://themovieblog.com/2008/07/variety-boycott-follow-up#comment-146109 BrDanzig Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:58:02 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/07/variety-boycott-follow-up#comment-146109 Thanks for answering my question in the other thread John. I did honestly feel that maybe they had the same source and so credit was not necessary. The detail nut in me wants to know how it was proved that they were stealing stories and how they were confronted. Sadly I am not surprised. Major news sites tend to be very dismissive of blogs and the internet in general and it is bullshit that they act the way that they do. But I must ask, does journalism even have integrity anymore? I don't think I could claim that. Thanks for answering my question in the other thread John. I did honestly feel that maybe they had the same source and so credit was not necessary. The detail nut in me wants to know how it was proved that they were stealing stories and how they were confronted. Sadly I am not surprised. Major news sites tend to be very dismissive of blogs and the internet in general and it is bullshit that they act the way that they do. But I must ask, does journalism even have integrity anymore? I don’t think I could claim that.

]]> By: Rodney http://themovieblog.com/2008/07/variety-boycott-follow-up#comment-146045 Rodney Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:48:15 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/07/variety-boycott-follow-up#comment-146045 Blogging is not "a cesspool" eliminating the integrity of Journalism. Not all stories are broken by the big boys. They just like to think that if they want the news out they will call Variety first. Variety KNOWS they dont have all the stories first... but they like to pretend they do to maintain that illusion. The issue is the ORIGINAL stories that are broken by some of these sites. There is movie news that comes out FIRST from sites like ours and that is what Variety is stealing and saying they broke the story... days after its published on Latino Review or other sites - without credit. I have personally received emails from PR people offering our site the story first, and I am sure other sites are getting the same opportunities. Variety needs to lie to keep up their status quo. If they give the online community credit for breaking a story they are admitting that they were not called first or that their investigative reporters dropped the ball. Blogging is not “a cesspool” eliminating the integrity of Journalism.

Not all stories are broken by the big boys. They just like to think that if they want the news out they will call Variety first. Variety KNOWS they dont have all the stories first… but they like to pretend they do to maintain that illusion.

The issue is the ORIGINAL stories that are broken by some of these sites. There is movie news that comes out FIRST from sites like ours and that is what Variety is stealing and saying they broke the story… days after its published on Latino Review or other sites – without credit.

I have personally received emails from PR people offering our site the story first, and I am sure other sites are getting the same opportunities. Variety needs to lie to keep up their status quo. If they give the online community credit for breaking a story they are admitting that they were not called first or that their investigative reporters dropped the ball.

]]> By: John http://themovieblog.com/2008/07/variety-boycott-follow-up#comment-146029 John Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:14:15 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/07/variety-boycott-follow-up#comment-146029 Hey Devonroy, The Movie Blog is NOT a news site. Nor is ComingSoon or Collider or IESB blogs. Blogs aren't trying to do journalism. I don't report news, I just give my commentary and opinion on the news that's out there. I don't break any stories or even try to. But not all online movie sites are blogs. Many of them are news sites and do things differently. And I have to disagree with you... I find the "reporting" that Frosty does over at Collider to be every bit as good (or better in some cases) as Variety. He's not as smart or charming as me... but hey... who is? :P Hey Devonroy,

The Movie Blog is NOT a news site. Nor is ComingSoon or Collider or IESB blogs.

Blogs aren’t trying to do journalism. I don’t report news, I just give my commentary and opinion on the news that’s out there. I don’t break any stories or even try to.

But not all online movie sites are blogs. Many of them are news sites and do things differently. And I have to disagree with you… I find the “reporting” that Frosty does over at Collider to be every bit as good (or better in some cases) as Variety. He’s not as smart or charming as me… but hey… who is? :P

]]> By: ScreenRant.com http://themovieblog.com/2008/07/variety-boycott-follow-up#comment-146028 ScreenRant.com Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:13:57 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/07/variety-boycott-follow-up#comment-146028 As I said in the other thread, I'll still CREDIT them but I won't provide a link back to the originating story. Vic As I said in the other thread, I’ll still CREDIT them but I won’t provide a link back to the originating story.

Vic

]]> By: devonroy http://themovieblog.com/2008/07/variety-boycott-follow-up#comment-146025 devonroy Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:08:46 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/07/variety-boycott-follow-up#comment-146025 Within the blog community everyone seems to steal from everybody, and no one is really reporting anything. Blogging is sort of a cesspool eliminating any integrity journalism once had. I think Variety is just trying to separate themselves from these kinds of sites. I go to say Themovieblog for quick reads, then Variety for more indepth journalism. Its difficult and lines get blurred sometimes, but if you are getting your stories from publications that have already reported on something then your not really breaking any news. And this is something Variety will do more of then sites like Themovieblog, which does separate them. I guess when you play in the same park your bound to be on the same slide at some time. Within the blog community everyone seems to steal from everybody, and no one is really reporting anything. Blogging is sort of a cesspool eliminating any integrity journalism once had. I think Variety is just trying to separate themselves from these kinds of sites. I go to say Themovieblog for quick reads, then Variety for more indepth journalism. Its difficult and lines get blurred sometimes, but if you are getting your stories from publications that have already reported on something then your not really breaking any news. And this is something Variety will do more of then sites like Themovieblog, which does separate them. I guess when you play in the same park your bound to be on the same slide at some time.

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