Comments on: Is Forest Whitaker “Ugly, Black and Unbankable”? http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/is-forest-whitaker-ugly-black-and-unbankable The Official Home of Correct Movie Opinions Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:38:31 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Debbie http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/is-forest-whitaker-ugly-black-and-unbankable#comment-205380 Debbie Tue, 09 Jun 2009 01:26:52 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/09/is-forest-whitaker-ugly-black-and-unbankable#comment-205380 John stated: "Racism would be to make an assumption about THE PERSON you’re talking about. In this case it WOULD be racism if the studio exec was making an assumption on Whitaker’s acting ability because he’s black. However, what he was doing was making an assumption (correct or incorrect) on how the MARKET would respond to an actor in that role. An assumption that is (very sadly) backed up by verifiable numbers and proof." observation about the facts of how OTHER people (the market) respond people of another ethnicity in the lead role of a movie. This is only racism if the exec doubted Whitaker’s acting ability because he was black. That’s not what happened here at all." Really John I honestly don't believe that you believed that bs you wrote. Racism is not only when you make an assumption based on someone's race but most importantly when you act upon this assumption. Nothing illustrates racism more than denying a person opportunity based on their skin color. (hasn't this same argument been used many times in history to deny blacks equal opportunity?) And your having a "black" girlfriend doesn't add anything of value into the equation. Naue stated: "There is not context needed for the statement to be offensive and wrong. the only exception would be if he was quoting something someone else said. And if any remarks are to be made about context, it’s that he doesn’t want Forest Whitaker in the movie because he think that Forest is ugly, he doesn’t like the fact that Forest is black, and that he doesn’t think he can make money off of him. Which is exponentially more offensive no matter where in the world you are. A moment of absolute clarity... thank you!!!!! John stated: “Racism would be to make an assumption about THE PERSON you’re talking about. In this case it WOULD be racism if the studio exec was making an assumption on Whitaker’s acting ability because he’s black.

However, what he was doing was making an assumption (correct or incorrect) on how the MARKET would respond to an actor in that role. An assumption that is (very sadly) backed up by verifiable numbers and proof.”

observation about the facts of how OTHER people (the market) respond people of another ethnicity in the lead role of a movie.

This is only racism if the exec doubted Whitaker’s acting ability because he was black. That’s not what happened here at all.”

Really John I honestly don’t believe that you believed that bs you wrote. Racism is not only when you make an assumption based on someone’s race but most importantly when you act upon this assumption. Nothing illustrates racism more than denying a person opportunity based on their skin color. (hasn’t this same argument been used many times in history to deny blacks equal opportunity?)
And your having a “black” girlfriend doesn’t add anything of value into the equation.

Naue stated: “There is not context needed for the statement to be offensive and wrong. the only exception would be if he was quoting something someone else said. And if any remarks are to be made about context, it’s that he doesn’t want Forest Whitaker in the movie because he think that Forest is ugly, he doesn’t like the fact that Forest is black, and that he doesn’t think he can make money off of him. Which is exponentially more offensive no matter where in the world you are.

A moment of absolute clarity… thank you!!!!!

]]> By: Naue http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/is-forest-whitaker-ugly-black-and-unbankable#comment-205098 Naue Sun, 07 Jun 2009 07:35:27 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/09/is-forest-whitaker-ugly-black-and-unbankable#comment-205098 There is not context needed for the statement to be offensive and wrong. the only exception would be if he was quoting something someone else said. And if any remarks are to be made about context, it's that he doesn't want Forest Whitaker in the movie because he think that Forest is ugly, he doesn't like the fact that Forest is black, and that he doesn't think he can make money off of him. Which is exponentially more offensive no matter where in the world you are. There is not context needed for the statement to be offensive and wrong. the only exception would be if he was quoting something someone else said. And if any remarks are to be made about context, it’s that he doesn’t want Forest Whitaker in the movie because he think that Forest is ugly, he doesn’t like the fact that Forest is black, and that he doesn’t think he can make money off of him. Which is exponentially more offensive no matter where in the world you are.

]]> By: Steven http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/is-forest-whitaker-ugly-black-and-unbankable#comment-165970 Steven Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:13:49 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/09/is-forest-whitaker-ugly-black-and-unbankable#comment-165970 This is really amazing. With Whitaker, no one wants to say the king has no cloths. He is a disgusting, nasty fat pig, loser. Forget he is black, there is nothing wrong with black. But the guy makes one want to vomit just to look at him. I can´t handle any movie he is in. I am in total agreement with the studio exec. The guy would turn the movie into garbage. The funny thing is no one wants to say it, that is really weird. And you know there has to be very few people that don´t feel he is nasty to look at. It is not a racial issue, actually a beautiful black man or woman can be much more photogenic and exotic than a white one. This is really amazing. With Whitaker, no one wants to say the king has no cloths. He is a disgusting, nasty fat pig, loser. Forget he is black, there is nothing wrong with black. But the guy makes one want to vomit just to look at him. I can´t handle any movie he is in. I am in total agreement with the studio exec. The guy would turn the movie into garbage. The funny thing is no one wants to say it, that is really weird. And you know there has to be very few people that don´t feel he is nasty to look at. It is not a racial issue, actually a beautiful black man or woman can be much more photogenic and exotic than a white one.

]]> By: hypestyle http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/is-forest-whitaker-ugly-black-and-unbankable#comment-165786 hypestyle Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:51:17 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/09/is-forest-whitaker-ugly-black-and-unbankable#comment-165786 wow, so the casual racism of a hollywood studio exec gets to be "just a business decision", neato! hollywood professionals of color can all testify to the veiled and casual bigotry that is encountered on a regular basis, and all within the context of "just business". and this is coming from self-described "socially tolerant liberals" who may think that they are above bigoted attitudes.. Hollywood Klan can go to hell... wow, so the casual racism of a hollywood studio exec gets to be “just a business decision”, neato! hollywood professionals of color can all testify to the veiled and casual bigotry that is encountered on a regular basis, and all within the context of “just business”. and this is coming from self-described “socially tolerant liberals” who may think that they are above bigoted attitudes.. Hollywood Klan can go to hell…

]]> By: 790 http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/is-forest-whitaker-ugly-black-and-unbankable#comment-164526 790 Fri, 03 Oct 2008 04:03:17 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/09/is-forest-whitaker-ugly-black-and-unbankable#comment-164526 John seriously this is one of the funniest articles in a long time. The headline alone cracks me up. :-) All you folk that can't deal with an opinion on this need to take a step back... Obama's gonna be king just find solace in that !!! Tards... John seriously this is one of the funniest articles in a long time.
The headline alone cracks me up. :-)

All you folk that can’t deal with an opinion on this need to take a step back…
Obama’s gonna be king just find solace in that !!! Tards…

]]> By: BobaFett http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/is-forest-whitaker-ugly-black-and-unbankable#comment-164443 BobaFett Wed, 01 Oct 2008 08:59:07 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/09/is-forest-whitaker-ugly-black-and-unbankable#comment-164443 Not wanting to emply someone because of there race is NOT racism. Situation: If I were a business owner, and i interviewed 40 people. 10 of them were black, and only 1 of them was hired. I also did not hire 18 white people, the next round I interviewed 12 black people and 15 white people. Only one of the black people lasted and 6 white people were hired. I interviewed another 18 more black people and 12 white people. None of the black people were hired and the 3 white people were. I interview 17 more black people and 5 white people. Again none of the black people were hired, and 2 white people were. I interview 15 more black people, and 2 white people. The white people get the jobs. From the above examples it would appear that I might be a racist, however, it also MIGHT be that the black people do not have the qualifications or skills for the jobs. As long as the business owner does not disqualify other black people from interviewing for the jobs, and stereotyping or disqualifying them for the positions, this is NOT racism. Should the owner decide, he just is not going to hire any black people no matter the qualifications, then this is RACISM. I believe that above said examples can quickly show that some situations can look like racism but in FACT are not. Not wanting to emply someone because of there race is NOT racism.

Situation:
If I were a business owner, and i interviewed 40 people. 10 of them were black, and only 1 of them was hired. I also did not hire 18 white people, the next round I interviewed 12 black people and 15 white people. Only one of the black people lasted and 6 white people were hired. I interviewed another 18 more black people and 12 white people. None of the black people were hired and the 3 white people were.
I interview 17 more black people and 5 white people. Again none of the black people were hired, and 2 white people were.
I interview 15 more black people, and 2 white people. The white people get the jobs.

From the above examples it would appear that I might be a racist, however, it also MIGHT be that the black people do not have the qualifications or skills for the jobs. As long as the business owner does not disqualify other black people from interviewing for the jobs, and stereotyping or disqualifying them for the positions, this is NOT racism.

Should the owner decide, he just is not going to hire any black people no matter the qualifications, then this is RACISM.

I believe that above said examples can quickly show that some situations can look like racism but in FACT are not.

]]> By: BobaFett http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/is-forest-whitaker-ugly-black-and-unbankable#comment-164442 BobaFett Wed, 01 Oct 2008 08:59:06 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/09/is-forest-whitaker-ugly-black-and-unbankable#comment-164442 Not wanting to emply someone because of there race is NOT racism. Situation: If I were a business owner, and i interviewed 40 people. 10 of them were black, and only 1 of them was hired. I also did not hire 18 white people, the next round I interviewed 12 black people and 15 white people. Only one of the black people lasted and 6 white people were hired. I interviewed another 18 more black people and 12 white people. None of the black people were hired and the 3 white people were. I interview 17 more black people and 5 white people. Again none of the black people were hired, and 2 white people were. I interview 15 more black people, and 2 white people. The white people get the jobs. From the above examples it would appear that I might be a racist, however, it also MIGHT be that the black people do not have the qualifications or skills for the jobs. As long as the business owner does not disqualify other black people from interviewing for the jobs, and stereotyping or disqualifying them for the positions, this is NOT racism. Should the owner decide, he just is not going to hire any black people no matter the qualifications, then this is RACISM. I believe that above said examples can quickly show that some situations can look like racism but in FACT are not. Not wanting to emply someone because of there race is NOT racism.

Situation:
If I were a business owner, and i interviewed 40 people. 10 of them were black, and only 1 of them was hired. I also did not hire 18 white people, the next round I interviewed 12 black people and 15 white people. Only one of the black people lasted and 6 white people were hired. I interviewed another 18 more black people and 12 white people. None of the black people were hired and the 3 white people were.
I interview 17 more black people and 5 white people. Again none of the black people were hired, and 2 white people were.
I interview 15 more black people, and 2 white people. The white people get the jobs.

From the above examples it would appear that I might be a racist, however, it also MIGHT be that the black people do not have the qualifications or skills for the jobs. As long as the business owner does not disqualify other black people from interviewing for the jobs, and stereotyping or disqualifying them for the positions, this is NOT racism.

Should the owner decide, he just is not going to hire any black people no matter the qualifications, then this is RACISM.

I believe that above said examples can quickly show that some situations can look like racism but in FACT are not.

]]> By: 790 http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/is-forest-whitaker-ugly-black-and-unbankable#comment-164435 790 Wed, 01 Oct 2008 06:33:57 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/09/is-forest-whitaker-ugly-black-and-unbankable#comment-164435 Yes,,,, Didn't Keanu Reeves kill him in Street Kings. Die Monster Die! Yes,,,,

Didn’t Keanu Reeves kill him in Street Kings.
Die Monster Die!

]]> By: George http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/is-forest-whitaker-ugly-black-and-unbankable#comment-164405 George Wed, 01 Oct 2008 02:02:23 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/09/is-forest-whitaker-ugly-black-and-unbankable#comment-164405 and yes its his money and he can invest in whatever he wants. But that doesn't change the fact that whitaker being black was one of the reasons he didn't want him. That is pretty much the definition of racism. and yes its his money and he can invest in whatever he wants. But that doesn’t change the fact that whitaker being black was one of the reasons he didn’t want him. That is pretty much the definition of racism.

]]> By: George http://themovieblog.com/2008/09/is-forest-whitaker-ugly-black-and-unbankable#comment-164404 George Wed, 01 Oct 2008 02:00:20 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/09/is-forest-whitaker-ugly-black-and-unbankable#comment-164404 If the guy had said "I don't want whitaker because I don't see this character as a black man" then that would be a completely different story. But that is not what the exec said. If this story is true the exec didn't mention the character or the script. He gave three reasons he didn't want him. Not one of those was about the character. One of them however - the middle one - was based on whitakers race. That is called Racism. I don't see how there is any defence for what the guy said. If the guy had said “I don’t want whitaker because I don’t see this character as a black man” then that would be a completely different story. But that is not what the exec said.

If this story is true the exec didn’t mention the character or the script. He gave three reasons he didn’t want him. Not one of those was about the character. One of them however – the middle one – was based on whitakers race. That is called Racism.

I don’t see how there is any defence for what the guy said.

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