Comments on: Wall-E, Dark Knight And Iron Man Make AFI’s Top 10 List http://themovieblog.com/2008/12/wall-e-dark-knight-and-iron-man-make-afis-top-10-list The Official Home of Correct Movie Opinions Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:09:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Chip http://themovieblog.com/2008/12/wall-e-dark-knight-and-iron-man-make-afis-top-10-list#comment-178287 Chip Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:45:50 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/12/wall-e-dark-knight-and-iron-man-make-afis-top-10-list#comment-178287 I did like The Dark Knight more than WALL-E initially, but now that I've seen both films again since they've been on DVD, I think I prefer WALL-E. Don't get me wrong, both are very good movies. Both have good stories, characters, good soundtracks, etc. But somehow WALL-E is my favorite. I'm very happy with The Dark Knight though. I very rarely consider sequels to be better (or even as good) than their predecessors, but The Dark Knight is up with TESB and Toy Story 2 for best sequels of all time. Someone about mentioned that they prefer TDK because it has a "timeless substance" to it. I respect his/her opinion, but that is what I think about WALL-E. It just has a sort of classic vibe that TDK doesn't quite have, kind of like old classic Disney movies like Dumbo and Pinocchio. Both are the best I've seen in theatres in quite a while though. I did like The Dark Knight more than WALL-E initially, but now that I’ve seen both films again since they’ve been on DVD, I think I prefer WALL-E. Don’t get me wrong, both are very good movies. Both have good stories, characters, good soundtracks, etc. But somehow WALL-E is my favorite. I’m very happy with The Dark Knight though. I very rarely consider sequels to be better (or even as good) than their predecessors, but The Dark Knight is up with TESB and Toy Story 2 for best sequels of all time.

Someone about mentioned that they prefer TDK because it has a “timeless substance” to it. I respect his/her opinion, but that is what I think about WALL-E. It just has a sort of classic vibe that TDK doesn’t quite have, kind of like old classic Disney movies like Dumbo and Pinocchio. Both are the best I’ve seen in theatres in quite a while though.

]]> By: aaron http://themovieblog.com/2008/12/wall-e-dark-knight-and-iron-man-make-afis-top-10-list#comment-176613 aaron Tue, 16 Dec 2008 01:30:25 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/12/wall-e-dark-knight-and-iron-man-make-afis-top-10-list#comment-176613 glad to see TDK and Wall-e on the list, hey i didnt like Wall-e however, i would still classify it as a 'film' glad to see TDK and Wall-e on the list, hey i didnt like Wall-e however, i would still classify it as a ‘film’

]]> By: Kokushi http://themovieblog.com/2008/12/wall-e-dark-knight-and-iron-man-make-afis-top-10-list#comment-176592 Kokushi Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:06:03 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/12/wall-e-dark-knight-and-iron-man-make-afis-top-10-list#comment-176592 Wall-E was great in my top 3 of 2008 but TDK its better, those first 45 minutes of Wall-E were amazing without dialogue, but TDK have better story, better villain (humans in Wall-E were not ''villains'' in the typical villain kind of way), better music, and the movie rated higher than TDK in RT is nothing, Juno (which i liked) have better rating than Fight Club, Kill Bill, The Shinning, Heat, Batman Begins and thats a big wtf and lol. Wall-E was great in my top 3 of 2008 but TDK its better, those first 45 minutes of Wall-E were amazing without dialogue, but TDK have better story, better villain (humans in Wall-E were not ”villains” in the typical villain kind of way), better music, and the movie rated higher than TDK in RT is nothing, Juno (which i liked) have better rating than Fight Club, Kill Bill, The Shinning, Heat, Batman Begins and thats a big wtf and lol.

]]> By: Zach http://themovieblog.com/2008/12/wall-e-dark-knight-and-iron-man-make-afis-top-10-list#comment-176589 Zach Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:01:17 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/12/wall-e-dark-knight-and-iron-man-make-afis-top-10-list#comment-176589 Wall-E may be the best movie of the year...but since there's a category for best animated feature, I do not think it will get nominated for best picture....I'm not saying it doesn't deserve to get nominated but I think it's highly unlikely that it will. Wall-E may be the best movie of the year…but since there’s a category for best animated feature, I do not think it will get nominated for best picture….I’m not saying it doesn’t deserve to get nominated but I think it’s highly unlikely that it will.

]]> By: George http://themovieblog.com/2008/12/wall-e-dark-knight-and-iron-man-make-afis-top-10-list#comment-176561 George Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:24:58 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/12/wall-e-dark-knight-and-iron-man-make-afis-top-10-list#comment-176561 you raise a great point about wall-e the first 45 - 60 minutes are without dialogue. and they are amazing. its the best hour of film of the year. unfortunately once they leave earth it then descends into stupidity and the last half on the ship is terrible. for me anyway. it ruined the film for me. you raise a great point about wall-e the first 45 – 60 minutes are without dialogue. and they are amazing. its the best hour of film of the year.

unfortunately once they leave earth it then descends into stupidity and the last half on the ship is terrible.

for me anyway. it ruined the film for me.

]]> By: John http://themovieblog.com/2008/12/wall-e-dark-knight-and-iron-man-make-afis-top-10-list#comment-176552 John Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:46:33 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/12/wall-e-dark-knight-and-iron-man-make-afis-top-10-list#comment-176552 Hey Michael, You can't compare Metacritics and RottenTomatoes to the little user poll at IMDB. MC and RT are a collection of the reviews of film critics across all mediums. IMDB is an open site where anyone, with no accountability and with pure anonimity can vote multiple times on the same film over and over and over again. MC and RT have a degree of credibility... the IMDB user polls do not . Hey Michael,

You can’t compare Metacritics and RottenTomatoes to the little user poll at IMDB.

MC and RT are a collection of the reviews of film critics across all mediums.

IMDB is an open site where anyone, with no accountability and with pure anonimity can vote multiple times on the same film over and over and over again.

MC and RT have a degree of credibility… the IMDB user polls do not .

]]> By: michael http://themovieblog.com/2008/12/wall-e-dark-knight-and-iron-man-make-afis-top-10-list#comment-176549 michael Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:22:57 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/12/wall-e-dark-knight-and-iron-man-make-afis-top-10-list#comment-176549 have we forgotton the silent movies of old? totally devoid of dialogue yes we have in reference to imdb I was crossing topics. I remeber a few months back you had an article about WALL-E being higher in the ratings for Rotton tomatoes and Metacritic than Batman. I guess imdb, probably the longest running movie site slipped your mind for some reason....anyway, polls are pointless have we forgotton the silent movies of old? totally devoid of dialogue

yes we have

in reference to imdb I was crossing topics. I remeber a few months back you had an article about WALL-E being higher in the ratings for Rotton tomatoes and Metacritic than Batman. I guess imdb, probably the longest running movie site slipped your mind for some reason….anyway, polls are pointless

]]> By: Kevin http://themovieblog.com/2008/12/wall-e-dark-knight-and-iron-man-make-afis-top-10-list#comment-176547 Kevin Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:15:13 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/12/wall-e-dark-knight-and-iron-man-make-afis-top-10-list#comment-176547 I thought Wall-E was brilliant, and should be nominated for Best Picture at the Oscars, but since it wasn't a Clint Eastwood movie, I think the debate will be for not, because it won't be nominated, despite how amazing it is, and it will join the long list of movies that should have best picture nods that didn't get them. I would have to agree with John here, a movie is a movie, you use the talent you have in different ways, in Dark Knight, it was the talent of Heath Ledger, in Wall-E, the talent was in the writing and direction, no matter what, it's amazing talent and should be reckognized. I thought Wall-E was brilliant, and should be nominated for Best Picture at the Oscars, but since it wasn’t a Clint Eastwood movie, I think the debate will be for not, because it won’t be nominated, despite how amazing it is, and it will join the long list of movies that should have best picture nods that didn’t get them. I would have to agree with John here, a movie is a movie, you use the talent you have in different ways, in Dark Knight, it was the talent of Heath Ledger, in Wall-E, the talent was in the writing and direction, no matter what, it’s amazing talent and should be reckognized.

]]> By: John http://themovieblog.com/2008/12/wall-e-dark-knight-and-iron-man-make-afis-top-10-list#comment-176522 John Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:05:32 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/12/wall-e-dark-knight-and-iron-man-make-afis-top-10-list#comment-176522 Hey Michael, You incorrectly said: <b><i>"John somehoe goes on to say they’re meaningless for films like TDK and then say they mean things for Transformers and WALL-E."</I></b> You didn't read what I said. I only pointed out that the imdb poll shows that in general people liked Transformers. In this post I specifically said: <b><i>The IMDB user ratings are good for generally getting a feel for it the online fans like or dislike a movie… but it really can’t be counted on for any more than that.</i></b> So I'm being totally consistent. Your assertion that Wall-E didn't try anything new or hard is something I outright reject. A movie where the first hour derives all of it's narrative without using any dialog whatsoever, relying on context, performance and environment elusively to drive the film is VERY rare and extremely difficult. "There Will Be Blood" got huge praise for doing just the first 7 minutes this way. Hey Michael,

You incorrectly said:

“John somehoe goes on to say they’re meaningless for films like TDK and then say they mean things for Transformers and WALL-E.”

You didn’t read what I said. I only pointed out that the imdb poll shows that in general people liked Transformers. In this post I specifically said:

The IMDB user ratings are good for generally getting a feel for it the online fans like or dislike a movie… but it really can’t be counted on for any more than that.

So I’m being totally consistent.

Your assertion that Wall-E didn’t try anything new or hard is something I outright reject. A movie where the first hour derives all of it’s narrative without using any dialog whatsoever, relying on context, performance and environment elusively to drive the film is VERY rare and extremely difficult. “There Will Be Blood” got huge praise for doing just the first 7 minutes this way.

]]> By: michael http://themovieblog.com/2008/12/wall-e-dark-knight-and-iron-man-make-afis-top-10-list#comment-176504 michael Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:11:22 +0000 http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/12/wall-e-dark-knight-and-iron-man-make-afis-top-10-list#comment-176504 Matt-I'm just making a point, polls are pointless because you can find one to support anyting. John somehoe goes on to say they're meaningless for films like TDK and then say they mean things for Transformers and WALL-E. It's pointless. Awards don't mean that much either, that guy who won best supporting actor for no country for old men did feck all acting in that movie, he wasn't bad but hardly had enough screen time or dialogue to get the award, Casey Afflect was much more deserving. I'm sticking steadfast to WALL-E being a perfect movie only because it didn't try anything special. Pixar went in with their usual bag of tricks, the same one they've been using since 1994 which is the period most of their movies were written, it's getting stale. I'll give TDK more mass because there was so much more effort put into it. It's a bit rough in places but it's got heart. To me WALL-E felt like by the numbers charming and cute, it was safe. cheers michael Matt-I’m just making a point, polls are pointless because you can find one to support anyting. John somehoe goes on to say they’re meaningless for films like TDK and then say they mean things for Transformers and WALL-E. It’s pointless.

Awards don’t mean that much either, that guy who won best supporting actor for no country for old men did feck all acting in that movie, he wasn’t bad but hardly had enough screen time or dialogue to get the award, Casey Afflect was much more deserving.

I’m sticking steadfast to WALL-E being a perfect movie only because it didn’t try anything special. Pixar went in with their usual bag of tricks, the same one they’ve been using since 1994 which is the period most of their movies were written, it’s getting stale. I’ll give TDK more mass because there was so much more effort put into it. It’s a bit rough in places but it’s got heart. To me WALL-E felt like by the numbers charming and cute, it was safe.

cheers
michael

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