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August 10, 2008

Star Wars: Clone Wars Review

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Even most die hard Star Wars Apologists (of which I am one) admit to one degree or another that the latest set of Star Wars movies (The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith) were a mild disappointment at best and a complete raping of our childhoods at worst. The name Jar Jar Binks will go down in cinematic history as perhaps the most hated and despised character ever to hit the silver screen and George Lucas saw his almost religious like following of worshipers who saw him as a cinematic deity lose their faith almost overnight like Dorothy pulling back the curtain to reveal the true identity of the Wizard of Oz.

So now comes an animated feature called “Star Wars: Clone Wars” that takes place between episodes 2 and 3, directed by someone else and once again raising our hopes that perhaps a good Star Wars movie could exist again… or making us brace ourselves for the raping of our fond memories yet again. So did Star Wars: Clone Wars continue to defile our childhood memories and the original trilogy as Jar Jar did? You know what… it actually didn’t.

THE GENERAL IDEA

The war between the separatists and the Republic continues to intensify and grows increasingly close. Any advantage could become pivotal to either side. Many systems still remain neutral in the conflict as each side tries to win over more supporters. In the midst of this situation, hyperspace trade routes in the Outer Rim Territories (under the control of the Hutts) is becoming even more important. When Jabba The Hutt’s son is kidnapped (yes you read that right… Jabba’s son), the Jedi Council sees an opportunity and offers to send Jedi to rescue the Hutt if Jabba would be willing to allow the Republic to use the hyperspace routes in the Outer Rim. Anakin Skywalker is assigned his own Padawan Learner, a young girl named Ahsoka Tano and the two set out to rescue the Hutt. Little do they know, it’s all a part of Palpatine and Doku’s plan.

THE GOOD

The action of the film was far more intense than I was expecting. There were so many giant set pieces and grand action sequences that the film hardly ever stopped to catch its breath. And it’s not just that there was a LOT of action… it was all really good action. From the giant space battles to the huge ground troop battles, the lightsaber duels and the Jedi throwing themselves into swarms of battle droid fights… it was all really quite spectacular. To me, it was easily the most action packed Star Wars movie to date, and maybe the most action packed Sci Fi film I’ve ever seen (animated or otherwise). It was fantastic. My hats off to them.

As much as I worried about how the animation looked in the trailers, I’ve got to admit within about 3 minutes I was totally sold on it and thought it worked and looked quite beautiful. Yeah, the facial animation could have been a lot better, but aside from that I thought the landscapes, the structures, the ships, the movements and the environments in general were all done wonderfully in my opinion, but I can see why others may differ.

THE BAD

I don’t really know where to start. First of all they butchered the theme music. HOW THE HELL DO YOU BUTCHER THE CLASSIC AND IMMORTAL STAR WARS MUSIC?!?!?! After the words “A long time ago in a galaxy far far away” appear, you expect to hear that immortal music… but instead it was some pseudo variation of it… this was the movie serving notice that this was NOT a true star wars movie.

Instead of the iconic opening crawl setting the stage, some 1960′s game show announcer does some ass awful narration to start the film. I wanted to claw out my own ears he sounded so bad. Damn… and we’re only 30 seconds into the movie!

The dialog was beyond horrendous. I’m not even going to go into it.

The new Padawan, Ahsoka Tano, was so freaking annoying… so “modern youth”… so bitch like I wanted to climb into the screen, kick her in her little kid ribs and shove a lightsaber down her annoying little throat. She was NOT what a padawan or Jedi is supposed to be… not even close. She was so mouthy she made Anakin look like the Dali Lama of Padawans. It made me angry whenever she spoke. Her action sequences were sweet… but they should have kept a gag on her.

I’m sorry… but the main plot is Jedis rescuing Jabba The Hutt’s kidnapped son?!?!?! LAME!!

OVERALL

Ok, here’s the thing. Once I accepted that this film was unapologetically a little kids movie and I moved beyond my rage about that annoying fact, I actually found myself being able to have some fun with it. Yes, there are many rotten things wrong with this “movie”, but as I mentioned there was a hell of a lot of really high quality action and “fun” that had me being entertained despite the weaknesses. I refuse to call this a true “Star Wars” movie, and I’ll never accept it as cannon, but for what it was, by the time the credits roled I didn’t mind it too much. Overall I give Star Wars: Clone Wars a 6 out of 10.

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128 comments
Matt Keith
Matt Keith

@" You know what, there is something wrong with all of you. Sure maybe the music is bad, or the mon-clauis is stupid but I think your all wrong."

Um, how can we be wrong with our OPINION? And theres nothing wrong with us, its just that film is SUBJECTIVE.

kyle
kyle

You know i agree Mr. Keith.

kyle
kyle

Well I disagree with all of you. Star Wars The Clone Wars is the best Star Wars I have ever seen. You know what, there is something wrong with all of you. Sure maybe the music is bad, or the mon-clauis is stupid but I think your all wrong. Oh and Jason, I'm a star wars geek or huge fan, what ever you want to call me, but sating that if you dont hate this new star wars your not a real fan, that is insulting. People have different thoughts then you people do. One other thing, lay off the cussing, it doesnt make you cool. That goes for each and every one of you.

Obwan
Obwan

I agree with "Mysterious" & "Hoang"... its all about the force that keeps u going... everything has good n bad in it... i was waiting for some star wars substance to be thrown at me... i enjoyed... Enjoyed the series too !!

Let the force be with all : ).

Hoang
Hoang

Wow, i can't believe people keep wasting time posting comments like this.

I guess i'm only a small starwars fan. I haven't even watched all Starwars movies, only a few of them, but i just love it. I mean, it doesn't necessarily need an excellent plot/acting/whatsoever, it just keeps us entertained, by the idea of a fantasy world where people can control the power of the force, which has long been in our dreams since childhood. Honestly, I don't see any problems in this cartoon. Why the Jedi rescue Jaba's son? Just see it, and you will know why. Lucas has made the reason simple that a kid can understand. 'Sky guy'? What is the problem with that? Throw it away and you'll see how boring the voice acting would become.

Are you people going to watch this 100 times? If not, then go and do something else. Just don't waste your time overwhelming your kids.

fuckthismoive
fuckthismoive

this movie sucks donkey penis!~!

DO NOT WATCH IT, ONLY IF U DONT LIKE STARWARS!!!

Mysterious C-3Po
Mysterious C-3Po

>Even most die hard Star Wars Apologists (of >which I am one) admit to one degree or another >that the latest set of Star Wars movies (The >Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones and >Revenge of the Sith) were a mild disappointment

It is a fact that there are fractions like there is also a fact that there are a fraction that doesn't think that the prequels were disappointment. Also you haven't included the young generations that discovered Star Wars Universe through prequels. If you try to talk with the young ones (like we were during Original Trilogy) you could find that their view about prequels is completly different. And as I said there is older fraction that is strong and that is on the same front.

>at best and a complete raping of our childhoods >at worst. The name Jar Jar Binks will go down >in cinematic history as perhaps the most hated >and despised character ever to hit the silver >screen

It think this is based mostly on a Internet hype at the time without arguments. The same thing has repated itself with the great movie Valkyrie again without any solid arguments. Negative reviews started long before the premiere, like there was a case with TPM. Most surveys shows that Jar Jar was within young viewers funny and great characther - comic relief charachter like C3PO in the original trilogy. It is also great that George Lucas has stroke back to those critics as we can see even some Jar Jar episodes in the Carton Network new series and that was a great revenge for the critics. Jar Jar is back.

>You know what… it actually didn’t.

Altough there was some devided opinions during the Cinema distribution of Clone Wars Cartoon after the complete aired 1st season I think there is a hardly room for a skepticism left now. Even the veterans on milleniumfalcon.com were excited with each and new episode.

Altough the most prequel skepticism was diminished after the ROTS distribution it was interesting still to see that there are active separatists in the review arena. It reminds me on the age of original trilogy when people were saying that The Empire Strikes Back was bad compared with ANH. After that debate transfered to ROTJ where some people were again saying that ROTJ was disappointment. Then few years went by and now the Original Trilogy is untouchouble union. Funny how times makes things to bond together. There is no doubt in my mind that in the future all 6 Star Wars films will be reviewed as a union saga - and it is already happening. The people who are still pushing for distinction will remain only as a silly footnote in history. It was interesting to watch the debate anyway.

Way to go Lucasfilm.

Master Setca
Master Setca

This movie was the most horrible movie I have ever seen!!! The Story line was crap and where the hell did they get Jabba's son from? It doesn't make sence at all! Maybe, just maybe, if they had done this with people it would have been a little more exciting! I have been a fan of star wars ever since I was like 3, and this movie just frickin ruined that!

dickhaynes
dickhaynes

Hutts are hermaphrodites and they generally only have one child in there very long lives. That being said you could understand how important the son was to jabba. The hutts were one of the most powerful clans in the galaxy and controlled vast amounts of space, planets, resources and networks; so it is in the best interests of the republic to help them. Besides, did we forget that Palpatine orchestrated all of this( and pretty much everything in any star wars movie) for the benefit of himself?

SWLuigiFan
SWLuigiFan

Before I go any further I just like to say:

THESE ARE JUST MOVIES!!! They aren't some "holy grail" of cinema, shesshhh. I can understand if you don't like this movie or the prequels, that's fine, but calling someone not a true fan JUST because they like the prequels is just arrogant.

Anyway, I've been watching the series and I have to say, it surpassed my expectations. Sure, it's not the best cartoon ever, but it's defently better than some of the shows that cartoon network has shited outa their asshole lately.

Back to the point, I'm sure this movie dosen't live up to expectations, BUT it IS a kid's movie, intended for KIDS!! If you '77 adults can't get past the fact that the prequels and clone wars won't live up to ESB, ANH, or RotJ.... then no one can help you.

As stated before, the same things that the prequels are being bashed for, the original trilogy was bashed for. I'll admit Christensen wasn't the best choice for Anakin but for a Canadian actor, he did pretty well.

errors aside, these are just movies, to ENTERTAIN people, not for every flaw to be picked apart by some "nothing-better-to-do-but-complain-about-how-my-childhood-got-destroyed-by-this-movie" Nitpickers.

SW fan
SW fan

I am a Star Wars fan and love the Clone Wars and the series. I don't see what's wrong with it, it's a good moive and the series is AWESOME!

I really get upset when somebody talks crap about this moive. Ahsoka is amazing and I really don't see why you want to kill her. The story is also incerdible.

To Derek Porter: I don't agree with you. All of the Star Wars moives were more then awesome. Also Star Wars is not just for kids 2-7 I am 12 years old and enjoy it come on open your eyes! Adults love it! Teenagers love it! Kids love it! SO I say maybe the ages 5-72 love Star Wars? I would agree. U SUCK

Also people who have watched the moive and still didn't like it here's a note for you: MAKE SURE YOU EVEN UNDERSTAND THE MOIVE BEFORE U START JUDGING IT!!!!!!!

People who haven't seen it: MAKE SURE U HAVE SEEN THE MOIVE BEFORE JUDGING IT!!!!!!!

I strongly encourged you guys to be a little more intelligent & less annoying and stupid.

Slipdipidis
Slipdipidis

I just watched the 3rd episode of the Malevolence series and it was AWESOME ! The storyline is written beautifully, the series really shows Anakin's pre-Vader ethics and decision making abilities. The animation is top-notch and stays true to the mechanics of the original 6 movie series. The explosion and the way it rocked the Malevolence ship was astounding. This animated series is proving to be extremely satisfying to my need for more of the Star Wars story. I can't wait to watch the last part of the Malevolence series and the 96 more episodes to follow.

Dylan
Dylan

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Darth_Comrade
Darth_Comrade

Has it become a trend to just bash anything Star Wars nowadays?

I actually enjoyed this movie a lot more than some of the originals, and I'm looking forward to a lot more of it in the near future!

I still don't get why people call it a kids movie when it clearly isn't.

Maybe I'm just ahead of the curve? I donnow...

Personally, I believe if the big critic cheeses had reviewed it positively, everyone would've reacted accordingly as well.

It's different, and in a good way. And for that, I love it.

jack
jack

The cartoon network Clone wars series was much better than this film. Even if they didn't have the 3D graphics, the faces were usually better somehow, the story line was far more interesting because it was so much less a kid's movie. I agree that this new padawan to Anakin absolutely sucked and left what I would liken to a rotten marzipan taste in my mouth. I heard that the director? for the cartoon network version wasn't invited to continue. I think it was a bad choice, but/and I thought the ewoks were a bad choice, too, for Return of the Jedi. That said, I will go to see any Star Wars film at the cinema,and probably buy the dvd, too. I'm hoping for more of it on any level.Bring on more prequels and sequels!

Ay ya
Ay ya

Oh hey guys. I thought this movie was really awesome. I loved the cinematics and it was spectacular. Me and all my friends went to see it and the blasters were soo cool. I really hope everyone else enjoys this movie as much as I did, May the force be with everyone.

Pete Haward
Pete Haward

I wanted this film to fit in with the rest. I didn't mind that it was a cartoon, but too many things don't make sense, namely the bratish attitude and the talking back of the padawan (also, where the hell was she by ep 3?) And perhaps the most distressful of all, what's with the Ventress character? Is she a sith, I thought there could only ever be 2 of those, a master and an apprentice. Although I like the weird gay hutt, there I said it.

Omiwan
Omiwan

It's uncommonly rare when a sequel beats the first one, but Star Wars saga was one of the few who did it with Empire Strikes Back. I didn't like the opening, some lines of the script, some characters (like that padawan kid and Jabba's uncle among others) and the ending, which looked like they pushed it 'cause there was no time left. Perhaps they did this movie for little, very little children. They should've launched it chronologically (before ROTS), like the Cartoon Network's Clone Wars, which I found more interesting for linking events explaining further events (that's was one of the reason for making the new trillogy).

They should get a new director, polish some of the writers and get on to produce some Old Republic stories (1,000 years before this plot) or something happening after ROTJ. And please, leave Star Wars for grown ups and use Jar Jar only for the kiddies.

People, George Lucas is just human. Sometimes we ask way too much from him, trying to re-live what he brought us on '77. Most of these 'judges' make their own films and post it on Fan Films or You Tube, trying to make a statement... and that's corny... Short Circuit corny. Give him a break, please?

Jeff
Jeff

This is the Switzerland of reviews. I can't tell if he liked it or not. I did, however, learn that he didn't like the recently released star wars movies. That's a shame. I do agree that Jar Jar was horrid, but the movies themselves were pretty well put together.

steve
steve

burgess... i understand its just this film dosnt really fit in with the other movies but i suppose there have been worse stories spun off from the originals.

i guess what iam looking for is an answer of what happend did she die in the hands of storm troopers or was she killed by anakin, or was she some how wisked away secretly to some unkown place ect.

i like your thought but it leaves me empty.

i suppose ill just have to wait for a sequel of somthing..

what do you think.

Burgess
Burgess

steve....in the words of the late mitch hedburg "you cant not enjoy something because of what will happen eventually.....would you like a delicious apple? no thank you, because eventually it will be a core"

on a side note, how can the gang at lucasfilm not write a plot better then the staff at bioware who wrote the first KOTOR? not that could have been a movie....................

kevin
kevin

Ok, I thoguht movie was good animation was great. But the wrods "sky guy" reminded me of my pre school birthday party.

Steve
Steve

hey i just like to say that the movie was ok but id like to bring up the point that the movie is pointless. what i mean is Anakin just ends up killing her in the end right? sooo great showing the movie and all but she and all the other jedis, besides a select few, die.

so please someone help me with this problem.

gracie brazilian jiu jitsu
gracie brazilian jiu jitsu

i saw this today with my son and i have to say that i'm glad i did. i thought the movie was pretty good, a lot of action, the animation was pretty good, not great but still pretty good. i wasn't bothered with the missing scroll, quite frankly i'm glad they set a presidence for the tv show, i don't want 5 minutes of scroll for a tv show. the music i was a little disappointed in, but i can live with it. what i thought was funny was how everyone thinks the zero the hutt was gay, wtf? he was not gay. he actually reminded me of boss hog from the dukes of hazzard show. some people just need to find the reason to complain or they are just homophobes. i'm definitely glad i was able to watch this in a theater. ahsoka called anakin, "sky-guy" once, big deal. get a life people.

Raider Raul
Raider Raul

Ok, the first MAJOR disappointment was when I went to see Clone Wars on opening night (10:30pm showing), there were AT MOST 20 people in the theater. I mean, where's the requisite Star Wars waiting in line???

For the first 10 minutes, I couldn't believe that there was no opening scroll, there was an annoying narrator, and couldn't help thinking "I'm watching a friggin video game!"

Then, after some witty dialogue and some awesome CG sequences, I finally suspended my disbelief and was able to enjoy the next hour or so.

The whole Jabba's baby son thing was pretty ridiculous. I'm the proud father of a 4 month old (hi little Raider Ramon!), and I couldn't believe they didn't even feed "little Stinky". That whole subplot was Lucas at his utmost cheesiest!!

I thought that Jabba's cousin or whatever was pretty cool at the end. Cool colors and a character so unbelievable that it was absurdly funny.

Overall, I would rate this movie 2.5 stars out of 4. Disappointing, but still a part of Star Wars lore. Much better than any of the Ewok movies, but actually not quite as good as the Clone Wars cartoon series from a few years ago.

pete
pete

Hey people. This is a kids movie and you are ripping it apart cos the characters are simple and say silly things.

As an adult, I watch Mary Poppins and I don't start bashing it up cos she pulls a hatstand out of her handbag and she uses an umbrella to fly.

Anyway, I read these reviews in my head using the Simpsons Comic book guy's voice. I can't help it. It's very funny.

TEVILDO
TEVILDO

Along with TREYCRANSON's remark, one of the firsts questions is: is the "movie" really worth theaters? As a TV Show, it's more than great for sure.

@ TOPVULTURE409: It's stated (from an EU novel I red but forgotten which it was, maybe one of the Han Solo trilogy) that Hutts are in fact asexual. No reproduction, they decide or not to breed and the baby has only one parent. Hope it'll remove your nightmares about it ;)

Also in this novel, by natural cycles of their specie they change their grander through time (on the attempt to breed?). Maybe the so-hated Zero character in Clone Wars is in his/her female period rather than be homosexual as many have thought about him. But no EU rules another EU and U may think what U want about that. I, personally, found him really funny anyway.

Dragonslayer
Dragonslayer

Star Wars Ep. 4 will always be in my top ten

TopVulture409
TopVulture409

(Type your comment here. Make sure you've read the commenting rules before doing so)How does.........hmmmmmm........the visual of ........I mean the mental visual in my crooked head cannot contemplate howwwww..........exactly does Jabba.....(ahem)........have....any kind of like ......offspring.

treycranson
treycranson

The reason I don't think this did very well in the box office, besides the suck factor is the timeline jump. Most people thrive on anticipation, and jumping to a time when we know what happened before and we know what happened, just leaves us with that part we don't care about. If this would've picked up with the story between Episode 3 and 4, I think they could have had more draw at the box office.

TEVILDO
TEVILDO

Then I'm glad I can still find in myself this "intellect of a 2 to 7 years old" when I precisely need it, never being shame for it. There are still other times to go to, for instance, Jarmush or Scorsese and then again, I easily find my way for it. Receive all my condolences for your recent affliction and may your former Star Wars enjoyment rest in peace, Derek.

Derek Porter
Derek Porter

After watching the Clone Wars I'm convinced that George Lucas butchered his own baby (obviously I'm implying that he allowed Star Wars to be ruined - his own creation). I'm tired of making excuses for Episode I, II, and III. The fact is those films were bad... Really bad. The Clone Wars film is so horrible that I will never spend another cent on anything to do with Star Wars. No more excuses, no more giving Lucas the benefit of the doubt. The entire Star Wars franchise is no longer of any interest to me. I'm not going to get into specifics because this blog is alread too long. The point is I hate Lucas for what he himself has done and what he has allowed to happen. He's a crock, he's embarassing, he's a disgrace... For one to actually enjoy Star Wars at this point - I'd say you would need the intellect of a 2 to 7 year old.

TEVILDO
TEVILDO

The more time passes, the more I find all these so-called "starwars fans (real fans, core fans, most-real, most-core, whatever)" perfectly annoying. I always considered myself a fan (I was here in 1977 for instance), but I have no choice but to seek another word that "fan" to describe myself - to make sure I cannot be mistaken with one of these sicky starwars gouls. Why do fans see starwars like being their "own"? It seems that in their view each new product (film, comic, novel and -here- CGI cartoon) MUST fit THEIR dream just like if Star wars was their strict property. When it doesn't fit the "ideal" (and it CAN NOT DO, of course not), they run screaming around like psychos, cursing GL and his staff along with all the others so-called fans who happen to not share their strict and poor view of it. Clearly they lost their childhood, their natural taste for simple entertainment. Remember, even the cannon first movies where created in a saturday-morning-40's-serial spirit, not to be this so serious and untouchable treasure they (so-called fans) seems obsessed to protect from others, like Gollum with the Ring.

In the past I saw and red all that can be seen and ridden from the franchise. Now I've just seen Clone Wars. I was aware that this was not a "seventh" but a part of a TV show for young audience (oh-oups! By the way, just like ANH and followers in their time, ask GL), and I enjoyed it as much as possible. It's most funny, there's a lot of fantastic action and cool animation (OK, characters are a bit "straight" for my taste, OK). The fact is: I liked it because it's likable. For those who really "can't bear" it, the reason is that they do expect far too much, forgetting that the entire creative team behind the show didn't work all these years to please each strict, jealous, obsessive and selfish "Right idea" of THE core-true-real star wars a so-called fan carries along wherever he goes. It's an entertainment franchise, nothing more. It always has been great, it remains cool. Be honest, truly ask the child that lies inside you. This very one child that has been cut off all possibility of pleasure at the time of, say, TPM because YOU, adult, decided you knew better. At Star wars time, you know far less than the child inside you. Let him drive and hold the pop-corn and soda. Then you'll find that all star wars product is perfectly cool. But if you stay obsessive with YOUR star wars ideal, you will never appreciate new star wars stuff again. Never.

Anyway by releasing this new segment of SW franchise, Lucasfilm has not destroyed the entire lot of copies of the first trilogy -including your own beloved DVDs- has it ? So stick to them and watch them again, again, and again if THAT is your way. But never shall you call yourself "Star wars fan" again. The real name is a bit longer : "Star wars first trilogy fans". As long as you're not able to release the child inside you.

All Entertainment
All Entertainment

Like you, I tried to get into it, but in the end found only dissappointment. My review called it "A Reel Disaster!"

Chris
Chris

They should use the same format for this film to do 7,8,9. That way they could use all of the original actors for the voice, but not have to worry about them looking to old. I'm sure Mark hamil and Carrie Fisher could use the money.

slybri
slybri

Thing is, this was supposed to be a TV pilot for a cartoon series on the cartoon network. They got greedy and released it in theaters. It doesn't belong on the big screen, but they put it there. It probably would have got decent reviews had it just been on TV, but since they put it up on the big screen, it deserves all the scorn it is getting.

Wii ROK
Wii ROK

I didn't really like the prequel trilogy the only one out of them I like was episode 3. Anyway I would actually like seeing a seven, eight, and nine the nthis piece of crap

Harold
Harold

Chris said: "I hear Jabba’s son, and I keep picturing them looking for a turd."

lmao!!! My wife's lookin at me right now like I'm a damn maniac! that was TOOOOO funny.

That being said, I'm gonna see the movie anyway, no theme or whatever!

C32Jedi
C32Jedi

Wow. I consider myself the biggest SW fan ever, as many who read this do. I loved the original trilogy, enjoyed the prequels, and now had the privlidge to take my OWN kids to see a SW film - The Clone Wars. My son left the movie so thrilled, it honestly made me cry. That was the point to this new series - bring along the kids and get them excited like we were 30 years ago. Remember - these were for kids and the little kids are enjoying the film. In a few years the more x-filesish Star wars live action will be on TV for all of us including the FanBoys who wanted more than a kids cartoon. But in the end, thats what the whole saga is, a fairy tale for children who are lacking fairy tales, it isnt a saga for lovers of dark brooding comic books. So find the kid in you again, or ask for pictures of my son who left the theater all smiles with his lightsaber saying "Ahsoka is cool and I let's go again!" :)

Ethan
Ethan

I just saw it and... before any of you throw away the idea of seeing it, SEE IT, it is a really good movie, and though most of John's review is very honest, it was still very good. The action was great, it's almost like they turned it into a bit of a war movie at some parts (Well, then again, it is the Clone Wars) but it's something you wouldn't expect to see. The action was believable, but the dialogue wasn't. Just see it y'all, you might end up liking it. Just close your ears when Ahsoka talks.

Beorach
Beorach

I was wowed by the action to start with...like it seemed maybe the death toll of clones would make this movie one kids shouldn't see...but that passed. Outside the AT-TE scaling the monastery wall, I don't think any of the action was impressive from that first scene on. Part of that comes from your knowing who has to survive, of course - there really was no tension.

As for the best of the original trilogy, I have to say ESB hands down. RotJ was satisifying but you had to be a kid to really overlook what the ewoks were...

Film fan
Film fan

The best Star wars film was Return of The Jedi by far.

I think the myth of Star Wars is stupid as the directors cuts are just stupid looking and lack soul.

John
John

Hey GT,

Return of the Jedi:

Greatest Space battle scene in the history of film

Vader / Skywalker fight the best of the franchise dramatically

Vader's ending and redemption were PERFECTION

The Ewoks worked completely as an allegory of Technology vs the natural world

The emperor was fantastic as the embodiment of the Dark Side

I could go on and on and on and on. Jedi (in my opinion) was the best of the franchise. No flaws whatsoever.

But all film is subjective and if you see if differently then your view is just as valid as mine.

GT
GT

Why, John, do you think Jedi is the best? I'm not insulting your opinion or anything, but I just can't really understand it. Sure, the whole Jabba seqwuence was good in a silly sort of way, and it had some nice moments, but the whole thing feels so flawed. Ideas for the first two films are rehashed to less success ( Leia as Luke's sister, was not as revelatory as Luke being Vader's son, death star being destroyed was less exciting as in 'Hope' etc) and there are a great deal of irratating moments. The Ewoks were at least as bad as Jar Jar, and Vader's redemption wes waaaay to hollywood and mushy. It really undermined him as a villain. The ending of Empire had so much promise, but this film fails to build on that, and in the end just feels crushingly disapointing. In my opinion, of course.

Oh, and I think people judge Clones far too harshly, and can't decide where to put Sith in my top 3. But Phantom sucks, no question.

Neutral
Neutral

Let's make try and make it simpler

The live-action trilogies were for older audiences We all enjoyed them for various reasons - the battles, the plot, the general idea. Clone Wars was made for kids - target audience: boys age 6-14.

In addition, we might as well make a distinction between the old school Star Wars fans and fans of director George Lucas. Those of us who didn't like the prequel series can watch reruns of the old movies and cheer them on.

Me, I don't really love or hate. I watch the movies, read the books & then come up with my own interpretation of the SW galaxy regardless of how bad or good they are.

John
John

Hey Hasslein,

Jedi is the best Star Wars movie, followed closely by Empire

Hasslein
Hasslein

Oh yeah, although flawed, I enjoyed the movie.

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