Comments on: Blind Speculation – Nestor Carbonell as Khan in Star Trek 2

By: Nuno Picado

Nuno Picado — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:24:58 +0000

Well, I don’t really agree with your opinion here (altough I respect it of course).

If a single man dies, the alterations to any timeline may be eventually enourmous, depending of his actions.
When and entire planet, with almost all his inhabitants, is blown to pieces, specially considering the planet is one of the four founders of the Federation (one of the two main federation worlds), the repercussions are at least overwhelming.

Of course, this is only a fictional story, and if the writers don’t want, it will not have any repercussion at all, but my guess is, the want it…

I for one would welcome Khan, but probably in a whole diferent story. I’d hate to see Genesis all over again. Probably something like Space Seed, but where Kirk and the rest are more determined (after all, they’ve been through a lot more that they had in the original timeline) to not getting beat.
Khan was marvelous on the movie, but was not so great in the series (altough not bad also). It would be good to have someone recreating this caracter as the powerfull villain he came to be on the movie. You know, something to make Nero look like a spoiled brat…

Just an opinion though…

By: James McCullen

James McCullen — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:09:53 +0000

I will always remember Nestor Carbonell best as Batmanuel from “The Tick.”

By: Angela

Angela — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:07:50 +0000

Although I think Nestor would be able to pull it off, I agree that Khan should stay in the past.

No sense in bringing him out when they’ve turned the world upside down in the first movie. Let’s keep on a track far away from orginal Trek, JJ.

On the note of rehashing ‘villains’ in other flicks being succesful, sure, but can Hollywood do anything else these days than rehashing/remaking? Let’s stay orginal:-)

By: Audioout

Audioout — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:19:07 +0000

I like the idea of old Spock deciding that Kirk’s showdown with Kahn is vital to his development and character. For him to be challenged, Spock would actually find and thaw Khan himself.

It would be doubly interesting in that it is when Spock originally died. Did Spock’s original death at the end of The Wrath of Khan also define Kirk? Would that mean that young Spock is destined to die?

If they went this route it would keep it fresh in my opinion. Always questioning if and how history will be different.

By: Ryan

Ryan — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:33:01 +0000

I remember all this same stuff when The Dark Knight was announced, then when Heath Ledger was cast, yada, yada, yada. You all have NO IDEA what Abrams got up his sleeves — even if there’s a Khan, it’s not going to be the same story. And for those who complain about the fact that this is a new Enterprise and it should do new stuff… well, why aren’t you complaining that the same crew came together in the same ship, to “save earth” yet again? Maybe it’s just “fate.” Maybe it’s just playing to the audience. As long as it’s done well, who the frack cares? GET OVER IT.

By: TigerClaw

TigerClaw — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:31:48 +0000

I’m all for Khan being in the next Star Trek film given that its an alternate reality, So they can do whatever they want.

By: Matt S

Matt S — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:26:20 +0000

I really don’t care what they do, I just hope it’s great.

By: Darren J Seeley

Darren J Seeley — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:13:35 +0000

It’s nice speculation. But if this were so, why bother with the new timeline at all? There is also the plausible that some things will be altered and some things will not. Minor adjustments does not make for a feature film. That’s how I view the Khan angle.

There’s plenty of room for “untold” stories, and even the chance for new stories concerning the last two years of a five year mission.

By: Darren J Seeley

Darren J Seeley — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:05:45 +0000

1) Khan says to Chekov in ‘Star Trek II Wrath Of Khan” that he remembers him. Chekov also knows of Khan. Yet the two never met in TOS. In fact, Chekov wasn’t even aboard the Enterprise yet. The new timeline now solves this error. Also the film reboot does not reboot the events seen in the Enterprise series. So I’m of the mind that “Space Seed” and “Wrath Of Khan” happened with some slight alterations.

Isn’t that also true of the rest of the original timeline, save for a missing planet? (Note: Vulcan *does* have to reappear at some point in order for the new time thread to be in effect) While it may be interesting to see those changes, they are minor at best.

We don’t really *need* a Khan story.

2) An actor is an actor. They call it acting.

By: Darren J Seeley

Darren J Seeley — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:47:09 +0000

Nothing is overtly wrong in bringing back Khan, anymore than Harry Mudd, which almost happened. Or if they brought back one of the Klingon generals. Heck, even I would love to see something that would blow your mind: The DS9 / TOS crossover with the Tribbles now changed…

But I’m more of the mind that there may be other adventures and stories. In fact, I’d either like to see the ramifications of the changed timeline (no Vulcan) and, let’s say the next film is a hit and they get a third film.

*Perfect*

Because then the timeline could even correct itself… and we could still move on. The show only lasted three seasons. That’s three years out of a five year mission. We would either have a story regarding those missing years and/or an extended mission. before the events seen in the 1979 film.