McG Describes Terminator Salvation Ending – Spoilers
Posted by Rodneyon 11. 05. 2009in News Chat
This discussion might be described as SPOILER content, so if you wer hoping to dodge any spoilers for Terminator Salvation, turn around now.
Run. Don’t walk. This is not going to be sugar coated at all and will deal with the conclusion of the film.
Remember how McG said a few months back that the ending of the film would polarize fans? Well apparently that ending is no longer in the film.McG revealed the details of that ending to io9. And while the film’s current ending is not even close to the one described, some might consider the following a spoiler, so you have been warned!
“We had a jet-black ending. Connor dies, we’re in a room with all the people we care about. You take Connor’s likeness, you put it on the living machine of Marcus. He sits up, now looking like Christian Bale, takes a gun, kills Kate, kills Kyle, kills Star, kills everybody, eyes flare red, [snaps] the end.”
I think the idea is not going to polarize fans, it would unify them in a dumbstruck rage that would turn even the most devoted against the franchise. Terminator is already precariously hanging by a thread with the time paradox stuff, but we accept it as part of the deal. But to have THIS ending in place would not just snap that fragile thread, it would take that thread, violate its mother, shatter its self esteem, come back in time to tell you how to save it and then dash any glimmer of storyline left.
It would be a great way to end the film if they just wanted to fuck everything up and piss all over the franchise. It would mean that Salvation is not the Hope Crusade that Connor leads them to, but that the ROBOTS found salvation.
I am glad they chose to remove this ending. I couldn’t see any good coming from this at all.
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My thoughts exactly, Rodney. If I had to see that ending in theaters, I would’ve demanded my money back.
I think it’s a bold ending. The title, after all, is ‘Terminator: Salvation’. That means the terminator’s find salvation, right?
uhm no. That does not mean the termination finds salvation due to the little “:”
That wouldnt be a bad ending if the other terminator movies never exsited. I could watch one movie with a bleak ending but when its a film series that spans across my entire life, I would hope there would be a more positive ending.
that ending wouldve left me in the theater laughing my ass off.
I don’t think this “spoiler” is precisely news, other than the comment that ‘Marcus’ turns on everyone. There’s been talk of an original ending for at least 6 months now, where Connor is KIA and in order to keep the resistance alive, Marcus dons Connor’s skin. That ending, was also reported to have been canned as in itself was enough to spark fans into rage.
If they would have used that ending, the next Terminator film (yea, the money this one makes is going to make a follow-on) will never find a director. That is, if Rob Zombie isn’t busy…
Not gonna read it…. I’m already pumped to see this film and don’t want it spoiled
Well, it’s not as funny as the Matrix ending me and my friends thought up where towards the end of the 3rd movie Neo wakes up drunk in his apartment, no hole in the back of his head, all plugs are gone, and bottles of alcohol riddle his room. He then says he has to stop drinking and takes another sip and goes back to bed then the credits roll.
That would be a nice ending to “The Matrix”
I meant “Matrix Revolutions”
It was a smart choice in not going with that ending. It’s one thing to shake things up, it is quite another to take the rulebook, throw it out of a window, and knowingly have a cheap ending you know everyone will hate. It’s one thing in Terminator 3 where that ending was gutsy but satisfying because we “know” it had to happen sooner or later.
But to “kill” off all the major players? That’s too much. Unless the braintrust said, hey, let’s reboot like Star Trek! If we kill Connor, his future dad Reese, hell, knock out Kate…what hapeens to the timeline now! Isn’t that KEWL?
And then, smarter heads prevailed. Sure, you can do that. But in doing it, the original timeline is changed thus:
1) Skynet/Cyberdyne cannot be built.
2) While Reese cannot be sent back to 1984, and Connor may or not be born (Reese just won’t be the father) The Terminator will not be sent back to kill Sarah. There would be no point in it.
3) There would be no Terminator T-1000 to go after a young John Connor. There would be no reason to.
4) There would not be a TX to go after Connor, Kate Brewster or any of Connor’s young army, nor can the TX activate Skynet. The TX would not even be made, let alone a T-1000. There would be no T-800 or 850′s either. Why? See #1.
Thus, there is no Terminator: Salvation.
There can be no Terminator 5.
Point is moot.
Darren, You always have the best comments,lol
Yeah that ending would of totally ruined the series for me. I had heard that the ending was more like Conner is dying and in order to save him they must replace parts of him with machine. So he would still be Conner only half human half machine. That was awhile go though. I have no clue what the actual ending will be.
Seems Darren as already posted some of my ideas on how the series should actually end.
While I kinda remember hearing that this film will be the first of a new trilogy. At the end of the third film. Conner comes to the realization that the only way to save humanity is to kill Kyle Reese. Thus ending his own life and changing the what is now the future. Ending Kyles life will stop him from being sent back which means John will never be born. Then stops any event that lead up to Skynet being released. How he comes to this realization or how it actually stops Judgment day I don’t know. I just thought it would be a cool way to end the franchise
But didn’t we know already that Connor was going to be killed in the future? There are two things that I remember well from Terminator 3:
1) Kristanna Loken’s ass at the beginning of the movie
2) Arnold telling young Connor that he killed him and was reprogrammed by Connor’s wife to save him from the sweet-ass T-X.
I remember those things, the first one more than the other.:-)
this franchise for me ended after rise of the machines this next chapter seems to be going the
same way the new star trek movie is going
it seems to me that mcg wants to start the franchise over with a new timeline that rewrites
no igores everything or mostly everything that has happen in the first 3 films
i truly hope he does not no joke intended…terminate all the characters as he mentioned i do hope they don;t go with that ending and to make john conner a terminator or as
mcg put it slip into his skin dumb dumb dumb
one of two things are going to happen your going to either have a blockbuster or a bomb of a movie
asta la vista …. baby
Terminator I and II were the only ones worth talking about. I was great, II was a classic and one of the best of the genre next to Aliens (Hmm, done by the same guy). I can’t wait to see this film and I don’t believe in spoilers. If a movie is truly good, you could know the ending and still enjoy it…Didn’t we know the ending to Titanic…Oh shit, same guy made that movie. And I hear the same guy was at least involved in this movie so there is some home. A little bit of hope. I think this movie will be the true third installment. That alternate ending didn’t sound all that great so I’m glad they scrapped it…But on the other hand, it depends on how you set up the beginning of a movie whether it justifies the end of a movie. Once a writer truly has you…You’ll go wherever they want you to go, even if it’s to hell…And you’ll like it.
This ending would not have worked on so many levels, the next film (which i assume will happen) would have to start off with a whole list of new characters which i really wouldnt care about.
Give the fans what we really want, seeing the destruction of skynet and the first terminator being sent back along with reese. Thus completing the full circle.
the terminator who has connors flesh put on him was going to be the one who sent back the first terminator…